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                                   T H E   C A B I N E T

                              S T A T E   O F   F L O R I D A

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                                       Representing:

                               FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMISSION
                              DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS
                                 ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
                                     BOARD OF TRUSTEES 
                               STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION





                              The above agencies came to be heard before
                   THE FLORIDA CABINET, The Honorable Governor Bush 
                   presiding, in the Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03, The 
                   Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida, on Thursday, June 12, 
                   2003, commencing at approximately 9:40 a.m.






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                                      MARY ALLEN NEEL
                              Registered Professional Reporter








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                   APPEARANCES:

                              Representing the Florida Cabinet:


                              JEB BUSH
                              Governor


                              CHARLES H. BRONSON
                              Commissioner of Agriculture


                              CHARLIE CRIST
                              Attorney General


                              TOM GALLAGHER
                              Chief Financial Officer



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                                         I N D E X


                   FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMISSION
                   (Presented by Kevin McCarty)

                   ITEM                  ACTION                      PAGE

                   1                     Approved                      12
                   2                     Approved                      13
                   3                     Approved                      13


                   DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS
                   (Presented by Rocky McPherson)

                   ITEM                 ACTION                       PAGE

                   1                    Approved                       15
                   2                    Approved                       15


                   ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
                   (Presented by Theresa Tinker)

                   ITEM                  ACTION                      PAGE

                   1                     Approved                      26
                   2                     Approved                      26


                   BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL
                   IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
                   (Presented by Eva Armstrong)

                   ITEM                  ACTION                      PAGE

                   1                     Approved                      31
                   2                     Approved                      32
                   3                     Approved                      32
                   4                     Approved                      33
                   5                     Withdrawn                     34
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                   STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
                   (Presented by Coleman Stipanovich)

                   ITEM                  ACTION                      PAGE

                   1                     Approved                     36
                   2                     Approved                     36
                   3                     Approved                     37
                   4                     Approved                     37
                   5                     Approved                     41
                   6                     Approved                     41

                   CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER                            42
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             1                     P R O C E E D I N G S

             2                (The agenda items commenced at 9:40 a.m.)

             3                GOVERNOR BUSH:  All right.  Thank you, 

             4           General.

             5                As you know, Tim Moore has announced that 

             6           his incredibly distinguished career will -- at 

             7           least in state government, will end shortly.  I 

             8           believe, Daryl, July 31st is his date.  And Tim 

             9           couldn't be here today.  He is down at the 

            10           changing of the guard.  Admiral Carmichael is 

            11           moving to Washington to be the chief military 

            12           advisor to Secretary Ridge.  And we've had a 

            13           great working relationship with the Coast Guard, 

            14           and Tim made a commitment to be down there.

            15                But with his departure, it will be 

            16           necessary for me to appoint a new Executive 

            17           Director.  And our office is going to set up a 

            18           process for interviewing, and we will keep the 

            19           Cabinet informed of our progress.  I think what 

            20           we'll do is, we'll have a committee, internal 

            21           committee, and they'll make recommendations of 

            22           three or four, and then I'll ask you all to 

            23           interview them if you like.  

            24                Our hope is that we can get this done in 

            25           the first meeting in August, since, as I 
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             1           understand it, July is -- we're not having 

             2           Cabinet.  So that's my intent.  And in the 

             3           interim, I would like to appoint Assistant 

             4           Executive Director Daryl McLaughlin as Executive 

             5           Director and ask that the Cabinet approve Daryl 

             6           as the interim appointment. 

             7                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion.

             8                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

             9                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

            10                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a 

            11           second.  Any discussion?  

            12                Without objection, the motion passes. 

            13                Daryl, you want to come say hello?  We all 

            14           know you, but --

            15                MR. McLAUGHLIN:  Good morning.  Thank you, 

            16           Governor. 

            17                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you for sticking 

            18           around.

            19                MR. McLAUGHLIN:  Well, it's my pleasure to 

            20           stick around, whether it's a few days or a few 

            21           years.  I'm honored and privileged to serve at 

            22           FDLE.  

            23                You know, Tim casts a long a shadow over 

            24           our organization.  He has created a deep bench, 

            25           as he refers to it as.  And I feel like I've 
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             1           kind of been in a training program for the last 

             2           15 years.  It doesn't compare at all to recruit 

             3           school back in 1976, but it's certainly a pretty 

             4           comprehensive program.  So I'm privileged to 

             5           serve in his stead while he makes his way into 

             6           the private sector.  I'm honored by your 

             7           confidence.  And you can count on the folks, the 

             8           men and women who serve daily at FDLE, to make 

             9           you proud. 

            10                Thank you.

            11                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you very much.  I 

            12           honestly believe -- and people tire of me saying 

            13           that we're number one in every possible category 

            14           of life, but I honestly believe that the Florida 

            15           Department of Law Enforcement is the best state 

            16           law enforcement agency in the country.  And you 

            17           can measure it by what local law enforcement 

            18           thinks of it, and it never -- it didn't used to 

            19           be that way.  

            20                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  That's true. 

            21                GOVERNOR BUSH:  They have built a great 

            22           relationship with local law enforcement.  Our 

            23           DNA technology, or DNA activities are by far and 

            24           away number one, and that will help us going 

            25           forward immeasurably in fighting crime and 
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             1           identifying people that commit crime.  And the 

             2           training and the caliber of the officers, the 

             3           agents, is just phenomenal.  I just -- I cannot 

             4           tell you how proud I am of how good you all do 

             5           your jobs.

             6                MR. McLAUGHLIN:  That's great to hear.  

             7           Thank you, sir.  I appreciate it.

             8                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Governor, if I could 

             9           ask, in your search, both inside and outside, or 

            10           whoever is going to apply, or however you're 

            11           going to do this, I am in hopes, having had some 

            12           law enforcement background, that law enforcement 

            13           administrative knowledge, which is pretty unique 

            14           -- this Department has picked up a lot of law 

            15           enforcement capabilities over the past just few 

            16           years that it didn't have just eight, nine years 

            17           ago.  And working on that many investigations of 

            18           those types of calibers, law enforcement 

            19           administration is a major part of that, and I 

            20           would hope that your team will be looking at 

            21           that as one of their major criteria.

            22                CFO GALLAGHER:  Is there criteria that 

            23           you're setting, that's going to be -- I mean, 

            24           shouldn't we have some kind of criteria?

            25                GOVERNOR BUSH:  I don't think we need 
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             1           criteria.  I think we're going to have ample 

             2           people that will apply that will pass the test.  

             3           I mean, obviously, someone running the Florida 

             4           Department of Law Enforcement ought to have law 

             5           enforcement background, just like someone 

             6           running the Agriculture Department ought to have 

             7           some ag background.  I mean, that's --

             8                CFO GALLAGHER:  Well, there's a big 

             9           difference.  One, all you have to do is get more 

            10           votes than the other guy to be the Agriculture 

            11           Commissioner, or the Chief Financial Officer, 

            12           for that matter.   

            13                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Well, let me put it this 

            14           way.  I appointed Charlie Bronson because he had 

            15           agriculture experience before he got elected.  

            16           And I wouldn't have appointed to Joe Schmo who, 

            17           you know, goes to Publix to shop, and that's his 

            18           direct connection with -- 

            19                CFO GALLAGHER:  Agriculture. 

            20                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Agriculture.  I mean, I 

            21           think -- I honestly believe that we will have 

            22           some awesome candidates.  And we will keep you 

            23           totally apprised of how the process is going in 

            24           the interim.  And then when the short list is 

            25           created, I really would like for you all to 
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             1           interview each one.  All right?

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  Governor, if I may.

             3                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Yes, you may.  That was us 

             4           looking for --

             5                CFO GALLAGHER:  Parole Commission. 

             6                Pursuant to Section 947.04(1), I would like 

             7           to move that we approve a 2003-2004 list of 

             8           former Parole Commissioners for temporary duty 

             9           as needed.  And the list of those are on the 

            10           letter that was sent to you by Monica David, 

            11           which is Maurice Crockett, Tony Fontana, Charles 

            12           Lawson, Guy Revell, Charles Griffin, Kenneth 

            13           Simmons, Edward Spooner, and Judith Wolson.  And 

            14           so I'll move that we do approve those as 

            15           requested by Monica David, the Chairman of the 

            16           Florida Parole Commission.

            17                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

            18                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

            19           Without objection, the -- is it a resolution, or 

            20           it's just a -- 

            21                CFO GALLAGHER:  That's just a motion to 

            22           approve those, yes. 

            23                GOVERNOR BUSH:  The motion passes.  Thank 

            24           you, Treasurer.

            25                The next Cabinet meeting will be Thursday, 
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             1           June 26th, 2003, and then I guess we're taking 

             2           -- we're going to take a month off.  We're not 

             3           -- we're working, but --

             4                CFO GALLAGHER:  Well, we are.  I don't know 

             5           about you, Governor.

             6                GOVERNOR BUSH:  I intend to, particularly 

             7           if we can get medical malpractice done, because 

             8           I'm trying to take my first vacation in two 

             9           years, and -- anyway, selfishly, I would like to 

            10           see it be done.

            11                CFO GALLAGHER:  That sounds like a good 

            12           reason to get it done.

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             1                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Financial Services 

             2           Commission.

             3                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

             4                GENERAL CRIST:  Second. 

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a 

             6           second.  Without objection, the item passes.

             7                Kevin, good morning.

             8                MR. McCARTY:  Good morning, Governor and 

             9           members of the Cabinet.

            10                Agenda items 1 and 2 involve Rules 

            11           4-137.001 and 4-138.001, Florida Administrative 

            12           Code, which provides for the adoption of the 

            13           latest manuals of the National Association of 

            14           Insurance Commissioners.  The most current 

            15           manuals are adopted each year and utilized by 

            16           all 50 states for the purpose of national 

            17           uniformity and efficiency in the review of 

            18           domestic companies. 

            19                The manuals to be adopted today are the 

            20           Annual Statement Instructions for Property and 

            21           Casualty, for Health and Life, for Accident and 

            22           Health, and the NAIC Accounting Practices and 

            23           Procedures Manual, and the Financial Condition 

            24           Examiners Handbook. 

            25                CFO GALLAGHER:  I'll move Item 2 and 3.
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             1                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

             2                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion on Items 2 

             3           and 3 and a second.  Without objection, the item 

             4           passes.

             5                MR. McCARTY:  Thank you.

             6                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Kevin, thank you.  Kevin, 

             7           out of -- yesterday, as you may know -- I 

             8           apologize for not getting the bill signed until 

             9           late at night, so we didn't -- maybe we didn't 

            10           get enough attention to the legislation.  But I 

            11           was not in town, and I had to sign the bill, so 

            12           I had to wait till I got back.  But how long 

            13           will it take for you to go through the 

            14           rulemaking process on the out-of-state insurance 

            15           bills, the regulations that are now required?

            16                MR. McCARTY:  The bill provides for the 

            17           Financial Services Commission to -- they may 

            18           adopt rules to further define predatory rating 

            19           practices.  We're going to spend the next three 

            20           or four weeks meeting individually with the 

            21           companies that are involved in creating 

            22           out-of-state associations to get a sense of, you 

            23           know, their understanding of the bill.  We 

            24           didn't plan to do any direct interpretation.

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             1           deals with interpretation of the conversion 

             2           policy that may need further clarification, and 

             3           we may want to adopt rules concerning that.  In 

             4           the event that that's necessary, we'll probably 

             5           commence rulemaking in about six weeks.

             6                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Okay.  Thank you. 

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             1                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Department of Veterans' 

             2           Affairs.

             3                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

             4                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion on the 

             6           minutes and a second.  Without objection, the 

             7           motion passes.

             8                Rocky, good morning. 

             9                MR. McPHERSON:  Good morning, sir.  Sir, 

            10           our second item this morning is the quarterly 

            11           report.  The material is in Attachment 2.  It's 

            12           recommended for acceptance.

            13                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 2.  

            14                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.  

            15                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second. 

            16                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a 

            17           second on Item 2.  The motion passes.  

            18                MR. McPHERSON:  And our third item this 

            19           morning, sir, is an informational presentation, 

            20           an update on the status of the Florida World War 

            21           II Veterans Memorial.  As you know, that 

            22           memorial is composed of four major components,  

            23           the Museum of History World War II exhibit, 

            24           which already exists, the permanent World War II 

            25           monument, which I'll talk about momentarily, a 
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             1           high school history World War II curriculum 

             2           supplement to augment the curriculum in our 

             3           eleventh grade history courses, and a Florida 

             4           World War II Heritage Trail series booklet.  We 

             5           have a slight -- a short presentation to go 

             6           through the major elements of this project.

             7                The history exhibit, as you know, Governor, 

             8           you directed my predecessors to tackle this 

             9           project incrementally, and first portion of that 

            10           was the Museum of Florida History World War II 

            11           exhibit, which was dedicated on the 7th of 

            12           December, 2001, the sixtieth anniversary of 

            13           Pearl Harbor.  Portions of that exhibit stayed 

            14           in the State Museum for almost a year and are 

            15           currently traveling around the state and on 

            16           display at three different locations this summer 

            17           involved.  Planning is underway with the 

            18           Department of State to return the full exhibit 

            19           to the museum and have it back in place in time 

            20           for dedication of the monument portion during 

            21           November of 2004. 

            22                The permanent stone monument --

            23                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Rocky, do you still owe the 

            24           Department of State money?

            25                MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir, we do.  We owe 
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             1           them about $29,000, and some of the 

             2           appropriation that was just passed in the GAA 

             3           when you sign it will be used to satisfy that 

             4           debt.

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  They're not charging you 

             6           interest, huh?

             7                MR. McPHERSON:  No, sir, I don't think so.

             8                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Good, because --

             9                CFO GALLAGHER:  To make it interesting.

            10                MR. McPHERSON:  The monument portion of 

            11           the project, the permanent stone monument, one 

            12           of the four elements of it, is the second major 

            13           increment, and we have begun design and 

            14           development of that portion of the project 

            15           through the generous pro bono services of the 

            16           architectural/engineering firm, Harvard, Jolly, 

            17           Clees & Toppe, of Tampa.  They, incidentally, 

            18           are the firm that did the design work on our 

            19           last two state veterans' nursing homes, and 

            20           they're doing an exceptional job with this 

            21           monument, as you'll see the concept shortly.

            22                We have gathered a World War II Monument 

            23           Working Group with representatives from the 

            24           Department of Management Services, Department of 

            25           State, and Liza McFadden from your staff, and we 
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             1           are now making some good coordinated progress on 

             2           this project.  We continue to plan for 

             3           groundbreaking ceremonies for the monument on 

             4           Veterans Day of this year, November the 10th, 

             5           2003.  

             6                I would like to show you the initial design 

             7           concept for the monument itself.  We are not 

             8           requesting approval of this concept today, 

             9           rather, just introducing it and, of course, 

            10           welcome comments and suggestions or any guidance 

            11           you would like to provide.  This concept will 

            12           also be provided to the State Veterans' 

            13           Commission tomorrow and to the State Veterans' 

            14           Planning Group next week. 

            15                GOVERNOR BUSH:  So this is on the --

            16                MR. McPHERSON:  This is on the southeast 

            17           corner of the entrance to the Florida Museum of 

            18           History.  And as you'll notice, the centerpiece 

            19           of this first slide is the pillar.  That 

            20           particular pillar is a granite pillar 19 feet 

            21           tall, and it's an exact replica of the Florida 

            22           pillar that will be an element of the National 

            23           World War II Memorial currently under 

            24           construction on the mall in Washington.

            25                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Oh, cool. 
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             1                MR. McPHERSON:  This is the -- this is a 

             2           depiction of the National Monument, and you can 

             3           see in the background of this, each state has a 

             4           pillar represented there.  We will -- from the 

             5           exact same quarry that manufacturers these, we 

             6           will purchase one of these pillars, and it will 

             7           become the centerpiece of the Florida Memorial.

             8                CFO GALLAGHER:  And then all those pillars 

             9           going up, there's one from each county, right,  

            10           those little dots going upward? 

            11                MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir.  When we get -- 

            12           you can see the approach mechanism there.  I'll 

            13           show you the next view.  This is a street view 

            14           of the design concept.  The walkway proceeding 

            15           to the centerpiece of the granite pillar has an 

            16           entranceway there, and the concept does have a 

            17           small marker for each county.  We are -- this is 

            18           just a depiction.  We have not gotten to the 

            19           design of exactly what each of those county 

            20           markers is going to do or what it's going to 

            21           have on it.  There are a variety of suggestions, 

            22           such as bases that existed in those counties or 

            23           heros that came from those counties, Medal of 

            24           Honor recipients, or things like that.  And our 

            25           committee is looking at both the design of the 
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             1           county pillars and the content that will go on 

             2           them.

             3                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Rocky, you know, there's a 

             4           central park, a city park in Bartow --

             5                MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir. 

             6                GOVERNOR BUSH:  -- that is in front of the 

             7           county building, I think it is, that has the 

             8           history of Imperial Polk County in the form of 

             9           -- I think they used granite as well, granite 

            10           monuments or slabs, and they have interesting 

            11           historical facts.  And it's -- it would be an 

            12           interesting concept, if you have enough space, 

            13           to do something similar for the connection.  I 

            14           mean, I like the idea of connecting the counties 

            15           with the war effort.

            16                MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir.  We think it's a 

            17           grand concept, and we will go look at that.  And 

            18           also, we're making some liaison through the 

            19           Department of State with Dr. Olson's program at 

            20           FSU, which is a program to capture historical 

            21           family records of World War II veterans, and he 

            22           has a tremendous collection of state historical 

            23           data over at the FSU Department of History.  

            24                So the concept of all of those, yes, sir, 

            25           we'll bring it together and try and incorporate 
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             1           it into this design.

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  I want to con -- I know it 

             3           has been a long time coming.

             4                MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir. 

             5                CFO GALLAGHER:  There has been talk 

             6           probably since I've been around here, and that's 

             7           a long time.  And I really think this is 

             8           impressive and really looks good, and I want to 

             9           congratulate you all on picking a design and a 

            10           place and everything.  I think it's deserving of 

            11           what it's getting.  And it has taken a while, 

            12           but it's great.

            13                MR. McPHERSON:  It's good progress, sir, 

            14           and we're going to continue to refine it.  We 

            15           will bring it back to you once it has a lot more 

            16           definition for approval after we take it through 

            17           -- vet it through the veterans groups and the 

            18           State Veterans' Commission and other 

            19           stakeholders.

            20                CFO GALLAGHER:  Have you got an estimate on 

            21           the cost? 

            22                MR. McPHERSON:  I'll attach that in the 

            23           last slide, if I can, sir.  I'm trying to show 

            24           the cost of the entire four elements rather --

            25                CFO GALLAGHER:  Move on then.
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             1                MR. McPHERSON:  -- than just the monument.

             2                GOVERNOR BUSH:  You want to go to the end?

             3                MR. McPHERSON:  The other portion of this 

             4           that we got a great cooperative effort on is, 

             5           the Department of Management Services has agreed 

             6           to help with the construction and also help with 

             7           the maintenance of it, as they do for the Korean 

             8           War Memorial and the Vietnam War Memorial in the 

             9           city.  And we're keeping an open liaison also 

            10           through DMS with the City of Tallahassee.  So 

            11           we've got all the elements working together on 

            12           this, and hopefully we'll bring it together on 

            13           time.

            14                The third element of the memorial concept 

            15           -- let's see.  This is the third slide.  This 

            16           shows a view that shows the pillar up a little 

            17           bit closer centered on that.  The walls around 

            18           it can be used for appropriate and tasteful 

            19           plaques to recognize either events, individuals, 

            20           or sponsors, and we'll work on the content of 

            21           each of those in the committee that we have to 

            22           develop this further.

            23                The third element of the entire concept is 

            24           a high school educational curriculum supplement 

            25           to augment World War II history teaching in the 
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             1           state eleventh grade history courses.  This 

             2           program is moving forward.  We have a team doing 

             3           it.  And I specifically would like to commend 

             4           the Department of Education, and specifically 

             5           Commissioner Horne, who stepped up to the plate 

             6           and agreed to fund this portion of the concept 

             7           internally, and that was a tremendous step 

             8           forward.

             9                The final element of the Memorial is 

            10           another booklet in the Florida Heritage Trail 

            11           series, and this particular one will be a World 

            12           War II Heritage Trail series guide.  It's a 

            13           40-page full-color booklet.  It identifies over 

            14           150 sites and individuals who were key, had 

            15           significant roles during the World War II 

            16           period.  This booklet is completely developed.  

            17           We're at the point now of tying together and 

            18           identifying distribution, and our committee is 

            19           looking also at whether -- how we're going to do 

            20           it.  And we want to not only put out the hard 

            21           copy books, which are great permanent 

            22           memorabilia, but we also want to have a CD to go 

            23           in the curriculum.  We want to have an Internet 

            24           capability, to put it out and make it accessible 

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             1                The final slide is -- I would like to 

             2           address the question on the budget.  These are 

             3           still estimates, but it is the first place we've 

             4           been able to kind of capture the whole thing in 

             5           one picture.  

             6                Some of this, of course, was fund-raising 

             7           from the State, which our department has been 

             8           doing for a good period of time, as you 

             9           mentioned, Treasurer.  And this year, of course, 

            10           the State GAA contains $200,000 that the 

            11           Department requested and the Governor supported 

            12           and the Legislature passed, which is about a 

            13           third of the cost.  And then we have Liza 

            14           McFadden working on sponsorships and 

            15           partnerships that will help us meet some of the 

            16           additional costs here, and also hopefully reduce 

            17           some of them.  The DOE element that shows here 

            18           as $200,000 is going to come in substantially 

            19           lower.  

            20                So we're working that through.  In the next 

            21           presentation, when we get the final concept and 

            22           we will have costed out the monument portion, we 

            23           will bring you an updated costing and a more -- 

            24           a better look at what the total cost will be. 

            25                These four components constitute an 
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             1           impressive and lasting memorial for Florida's 

             2           World War II veterans.  We're pleased with the 

             3           progress.  We know it has been long coming, but 

             4           we look to bring it to fruition within a year, 

             5           in November of 2004 on Veterans Day.  We look 

             6           forward in 2003 to groundbreak, a ceremony, and 

             7           November of 2004 to dedicate the monument.

             8                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Excellent.

             9                MR. McPHERSON:  Questions? 

            10                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you, very much, 

            11           Rocky.

            12                MR. McPHERSON:  Thank you, sir, for your 

            13           continuing support, all of you, for our 

            14           veterans.

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             1                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Administration Commission.

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes for 

             3           December 11th and the minutes of January 28th.

             4                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.  

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion on Items 1 

             6           and 2.  Without objection, the motion passes. 

             7                MS. TINKER:  Good morning.

             8                GOVERNOR BUSH:  T-Square, how are you 

             9           doing?  

            10                MS. TINKER:  I'm good, sir.  How are you? 

            11                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Excellent.

            12                MS. TINKER:  Item 3 is the appointment of a 

            13           selection committee for the statewide 

            14           advertisement review and recommendation of no 

            15           less than five names to the Administration 

            16           Commission for the purpose of appointing a 

            17           Director and Chief Administrative Law Judge to 

            18           the Division of Administrative Hearings.

            19                GENERAL CRIST:  Governor.

            20                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Yes, General.

            21                GENERAL CRIST:  I would like to make a 

            22           motion.  I would move the appointment of a 

            23           four-person selection committee, one person 

            24           representing each office, to review applications 

            25           and make a recommendation of no less than five 
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             1           names to the Administration Commission for the 

             2           position of Director and Chief Judge of the 

             3           Division of Administrative Services as soon as 

             4           possible.

             5                I would further move that staff to the 

             6           Administration Commission assist the selection 

             7           committee with the application and review 

             8           process and the preferred qualifications as set 

             9           forth by this Commission.  In addition to the 

            10           minimum requirement that he or she be a member 

            11           of the Florida Bar in good standing for the five 

            12           previous years, the preferred qualifications 

            13           should include demonstrated executive and 

            14           administrative management skill and ability, 

            15           effective leadership, communication, and 

            16           prevention skills, knowledge of administrative 

            17           law procedures and agency rulemaking, excellent 

            18           writing stills and analytical ability, and an 

            19           understanding of budgetary priorities and 

            20           allocations.  The position should be advertised 

            21           statewide, including in the Florida Bar News. 

            22                And finally, this motion would include the 

            23           appointment of Deputy Judge -- Chief Judge 

            24           Scott Stephens as interim director to continue 

            25           the operations of the Division as needed until 
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             1           the Commission makes their final selection.

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  Let me ask a question 

             3           here.  I'm not disagreeing with that.  There 

             4           needs to be one other -- Scott Stephens's main 

             5           position right now as a deputy is overseeing the 

             6           workers' comp judges.  So we need somebody -- if 

             7           he's going to take on the main job, somebody 

             8           needs to be doing his.  So I think we should by 

             9           the next meeting get somebody to be doing his 

            10           temporarily too.  I don't think it's fair having 

            11           one person trying to do both, because the 

            12           workers' comp thing is a pretty big set of 

            13           judges.

            14                GOVERNOR BUSH:  We could do that.

            15                GENERAL CRIST:  Good point. 

            16                GOVERNOR BUSH:  That would be fine.  

            17           There's a motion.  Is there a second?

            18                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second. 

            19                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Any 

            20           discussion?  

            21                Moved and seconded.  Without objection, the 

            22           item passes.

            23                I would hope this gets done pretty quick.  

            24           I don't know how long the anticipation is for 

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             1                MS. TINKER:  Well, we'll move as quickly as 

             2           possible, Governor.  We'll have to go through 

             3           the advertisement period, which probably will 

             4           take about two weeks, at least two weeks, I 

             5           think, for a proper advertisement.  And then 

             6           we'll pull the committee together and come back 

             7           to you hopefully in August, at one of your 

             8           August meetings, with a recommendation. 

             9                CFO GALLAGHER:  Let's say the first August 

            10           meeting.

            11                MS. TINKER:  We'll try for that.

            12                CFO GALLAGHER:  Okay.

            13                MS. TINKER:  Governor, do you want to name 

            14           the appointments to the selection committee 

            15           today, or would you all like to get back with me 

            16           on that?

            17                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  I can tell you who 

            18           mine is.

            19                CFO GALLAGHER:  Mine will be my --

            20                MS. TINKER:  It's your choice.

            21                CFO GALLAGHER:  Mine will be my General 

            22           Counsel, Mark Casteel.

            23                GENERAL CRIST:  We'll appoint Clay Roberts 

            24           for the Attorney General's Office.

            25                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  And I went outside 
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             1           to pull Sam Ard to be my representative.

             2                GOVERNOR BUSH:  And I'm asking Raquel 

             3           Rodriguez to do it.

             4                MS. TINKER:  Okay.

             5                CFO GALLAGHER:  Let me also add, in the 

             6           past we've found that the Internet advertising 

             7           areas have -- has gotten some returns, for 

             8           whatever it's worth, so -- 

             9                MS. TINKER:  Okay. 

            10                CFO GALLAGHER:  And they don't cost a lot.

            11                MS. TINKER:  Thank you, sir.  Thank you.

            12                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you.

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             1                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Board of Trustees.

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes of 

             3           February 25th, 2002.

             4                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

             6           Without objection, the item passes.

             7                Eva, how are you?

             8                MS. ARMSTRONG:  I'm good.  Thank you, sir.  

             9           Secretary Struhs is on vacation, so I'm filling 

            10           in for him.

            11                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Well deserved.

            12                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Item 2 is a sub-sublease 

            13           from the Department of Community Affairs to the 

            14           City of Pembroke Pines for some property in 

            15           Pembroke Pines for -- pardon me.  Let me take a 

            16           deep breath here.  It is property that is 

            17           managed specifically for Human Services Campus.  

            18           They provide services to the clients of the 

            19           Department of Community Affairs.

            20                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Department of Children and 

            21           Families. 

            22                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Children and Families.  I'm 

            23           sorry.

            24                GOVERNOR BUSH:  It's the old -- we don't 

            25           call it that anymore, but it's the old mental 
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             1           hospital. 

             2                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Yes, sir, it is that site.  

             3           Pembroke Pines manages the site for Children and 

             4           Families, and they don't have to worry about it, 

             5           but the clients get the services that Children 

             6           and Families wants.

             7                Questions?

             8                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Is there a motion?

             9                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Motion on the item.

            10                CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

            11                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

            12           Without objection, the item passes.

            13                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Item 3 is an option 

            14           agreement to purchase 161 acres within the 

            15           Caloosahatchee Ecospace Florida Forever project.  

            16           This is within Hendry County.  

            17                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on number 3. 

            18                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second. 

            19                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

            20           Without objection, the item passes.

            21                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Item 4 is an option 

            22           agreement within the Pal-Mar Florida Forever 

            23           project.  Is it's in Palm Beach County, for 

            24           2,600 acres. 

            25                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 4. 
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             1                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

             2                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

             3           Without objection, the item passes. 

             4                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Item 5 is the Southern 

             5           Golden Gate Estates project.  This is the 

             6           discussion between the County over the -- a 

             7           number of items.  We are requesting a withdrawal 

             8           to bring the item back to you in August.  I 

             9           wanted to give you a brief update on different 

            10           pieces of the Southern Golden Gate Estates 

            11           project for you.  

            12                On this particular piece, we are in 

            13           discussions with the County over the issue of 

            14           the roads.  We had asked Pam MacKie of the Water 

            15           Management District to discuss with the County 

            16           whether or not there's some arrangement we could 

            17           make where they would get some compensation for 

            18           the roads in exchange for us getting the 

            19           easement over them.  There have been initial 

            20           discussions.  We have not yet come to agreement.  

            21           But we thought it would be worth it to give them 

            22           through the summer to see if they could come to 

            23           that agreement instead of having to go through 

            24           the condemnation process.  So we will bring an 

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             1                There's some movement in the other areas.  

             2           With the Miccosukees, they have now asked us to 

             3           come meet with them the second meeting -- second 

             4           week of July down in Miami to present to them 

             5           different options that we had been looking at. 

             6                With Mr. Hardy -- he is the man who owns 

             7           the catfish area in the northern part of 

             8           Southern Golden Gate Estates.  He has asked to 

             9           look at the temporary use agreement.  He might 

            10           be willing to enter into that to allow him to 

            11           stay until we absolutely have to have him off 

            12           the property.

            13                Mr. Miller is the only one that we haven't 

            14           had any movement on yet, but we're continuing to 

            15           pursue options. 

            16                So with that, we would request withdrawal.

            17                CFO GALLAGHER:  I would move to withdraw 

            18           Item 5.

            19                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

            20                MS. ARMSTRONG:  And it's substitute Item 5.

            21                GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion to 

            22           withdraw and a second.  Without objection, the 

            23           item passes.

            24                Eva, they met yesterday, the Collier 

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             1                MS. ARMSTRONG:  They were in a workshop 

             2           yesterday.  They met the day before specifically 

             3           on these issues.

             4                GOVERNOR BUSH:  How's the pulse rate down 

             5           there?

             6                MS. ARMSTRONG:  They seem to think the 

             7           value of the roads is at 19 million.  We think 

             8           it's substantially less.  They --

             9                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Roads that -- these are the 

            10           dirt roads that --

            11                MS. ARMSTRONG:  The multitude of roads.  

            12           You know, some of them have them been paved but 

            13           have not been -- paved by the developer sometime 

            14           back.  The County has really not put much money 

            15           at all, if anything, into these roads.  That's 

            16           part of the issue.

            17                GOVERNOR BUSH:  But they're trying to work 

            18           with us, to their credit.  

            19                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Yes, sir, they are.  We 

            20           have had some discussions. 

            21                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you.

            22                MS. ARMSTRONG:  Yes, sir.  And that's our 

            23           agenda.

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             1                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Okay.  State Board of 

             2           Administration.

             3                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

             4                COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

             5                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.  

             6                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

             7           Without objection, Item 1 passes.  

             8                Item number 2.  Coleman, how are you doing?

             9                MR. STIPANOVICH:  I'm doing good, sir.  

            10           Thank you, Governor and members.  

            11                Item number 2 is a request for approval of 

            12           fiscal determination of an amount not exceeding 

            13           15,200,000 tax-exempt Florida Housing Finance 

            14           Corporation multifamily mortgage revenue bonds, 

            15           2003 series, Barclay Forge Apartments.  It's 

            16           recommended that the Board approve this fiscal 

            17           determination.

            18                CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on number 2.

            19                GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

            20                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

            21           Without objection, the item passes.

            22                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Request approval for 

            23           fiscal determination of an amount not exceeding 

            24           6,300,000 tax-exempt Florida Housing Finance 

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             1           2003 series, Grand Court at North Port 

             2           Apartments.  Request approval.

             3                GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

             4                CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

             5                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

             6           Without objection, the item passes.

             7                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Approval of fiscal 

             8           determination of an amount not exceeding 

             9           6,200,000 tax-exempt Florida Housing Finance 

            10           Corporation multifamily mortgage revenue bonds, 

            11           2003 series, Spring Haven Apartments.  We 

            12           request approval.

            13                GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

            14                CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

            15                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Item 4 is -- there's a 

            16           motion and a second.  Without objection, it 

            17           passes.

            18                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Item 5, Governor and 

            19           members, is the State Board of Administration's 

            20           fiscal year 2003-04 budget and other trust fund 

            21           management activities, which includes the 

            22           Special Acquisition budget, the Florida 

            23           Hurricane Catastrophe Fund, Division of Bond 

            24           Finance, and Florida Prepaid College Program.  

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             1           provided some detail and a synopsis of the 

             2           overall budget proposal.  For the State Board of 

             3           Administration, we're asking for a modest 1.3 

             4           percent increase, which equates to $301,000.  Of 

             5           that $301,000, 259,000 is the Board reabsorbing 

             6           the defined contribution, allocated employees' 

             7           salaries and benefits.  If you recall, Treasurer 

             8           Gallagher even asked the question, there are no 

             9           more allocated employee time in terms of 

            10           salaries and benefits in the defined 

            11           contribution program.  It is appropriately 

            12           staffed, and we're not allocating any more time 

            13           to that, so we then had to pull back those 

            14           salaries and benefits into us, and so we've now 

            15           reabsorbed the $259,000.

            16                CFO GALLAGHER:  Coleman, you have Bond 

            17           Finance Trust to approve that budget.  That 

            18           really is a full Cabinet, including the 

            19           Agriculture Commissioner, decision.

            20                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Okay.  That's fine.  I 

            21           was under the impression that the precedent was 

            22           that it had been approved by you all, the Board 

            23           of Trustees.  And that was a question that I 

            24           asked prior to this meeting, but --

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             1                MR. STIPANOVICH:  -- the precedent is that 

             2           it has been approved in the past.

             3                MR. BEN WATKINS:  What we've done in the 

             4           past, we're housed administratively with the 

             5           SBA, so for purposes of budget, purchasing, 

             6           payroll, personnel, and office space, it has 

             7           always been part of the SBA's budget and 

             8           approved that way, whereas bond issues are 

             9           different and are approved by the full Governor 

            10           and Cabinet.  It's your pleasure as far as I'm 

            11           concerned. 

            12                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Well, I think it should be 

            13           the Commissioner's pleasure.

            14                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Well, may I speak to the 

            15           Treasurer?  I had the law -- I had the General 

            16           Counsel's Office look at the law, because I 

            17           wanted to be clear on that as the new Executive 

            18           Director.  The law, I'm told by our General 

            19           Counsel's Office, is clear on the Division of 

            20           Bond Finance that you -- in fact, the Board of 

            21           Trustees do approve the budget.  Now, that's the 

            22           opinion from our General Counsel's Office.  

            23                I also asked them to look at Prepaid, and I 

            24           will tell you, our General Counsel's Office had 

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             1           Prepaid.  And I just handed your aide the 

             2           attorney's opinion for Prepaid that in fact you 

             3           all have authority and have to approve their 

             4           budget as well.  So based on what I'm hearing 

             5           from legal counsel, you do have the authority to 

             6           approve the Division of Bond Finance.  And 

             7           you've done it -- the precedent has been, you've 

             8           done it year in and year out.

             9                GOVERNOR BUSH:  That's what I was going to 

            10           ask.  We do it that way?  We've done it that way 

            11           in the past? 

            12                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Yes, sir. 

            13                CFO GALLAGHER:  So what you have here is 

            14           that -- now, the Division of Bond -- or the 

            15           counsel for Florida Prepaid basically said 

            16           Prepaid does come here?

            17                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Yes, sir.

            18                CFO GALLAGHER:  And they also said the 

            19           Division and Prepaid Board as part of the SBA 

            20           are subject to the statutory requirement, which 

            21           is our approval?

            22                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Yes. 

            23                CFO GALLAGHER:  Okay. 

            24                MR. STIPANOVICH:  So I don't believe it's 

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             1           approve those budgets.

             2                CFO GALLAGHER:  Okay. 

             3                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Any discussion about the 

             4           budget? 

             5                GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

             6                CFO GALLAGHER:  Second. 

             7                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  

             8           Without objection, the budget passes, just in 

             9           the nick of time. 

            10                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Thank you, Governor and 

            11           members. 

            12                The last item on the agenda is the 

            13           amendment to the Public Employee Optional 

            14           Retirement Program.  As you recall, you all 

            15           approved that budget back in May, and all we're 

            16           simply asking there is to amend the budget so 

            17           that it provides salary and benefit increases as 

            18           a result of the legislation that was passed in 

            19           this '03 session.  And that would simply be the 

            20           -- it's about a $29,000 number, and it's at 2 

            21           percent, with a maximum of $70,000 employees not 

            22           getting more than 500.

            23                GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

            24                CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

            25                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and second.  Without 
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             1           objection, the item passes.  

             2                MR. STIPANOVICH:  That completes my agenda.

             3                GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you, Coleman. 

             4                MR. STIPANOVICH:  Thank you.

             5                (Proceedings concluded at 10:18 a.m.)

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             2                    CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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             4     STATE OF FLORIDA)

             5     COUNTY OF LEON  )

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             7           I, MARY ALLEN NEEL, do hereby certify that the 

             8     foregoing proceedings were taken before me at the time 

             9     and place therein designated; that my shorthand notes 

            10     were thereafter transcribed under my supervision; and 

            11     that the foregoing pages numbered 1 through 42 are a 

            12     true and correct transcription of my stenographic 

            13     notes.

            14           I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a relative, 

            15     employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties, 

            16     or relative or employee of such attorney or counsel, 

            17     or financially interested in the action.

            18           DATED THIS 22nd day of June, 2003.

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                                              MARY ALLEN NEEL, RPR
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                                              Tallahassee, Florida  32301
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