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          2                  T H E   C A B I N E T
 
          3             S T A T E   O F   F L O R I D A
 
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                                 Representing:
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                          STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
          6                  DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
                         INFORMATION RESOURCE COMMISSION
          7                  STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
                           ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
          8                MARINE FISHERIES COMMISSION
                        BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL
          9                   IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
 
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                       The above agencies came to be heard before
         11   THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable Governor Chiles,
              presiding, in the Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03,
         12   The Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida, on Tuesday,
              May 14, 1996, commencing at approximately 9:46 a.m.
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         15                       Reported by:
 
         16                    LAURIE L. GILBERT
                        Registered Professional Reporter
         17                 Certified Court Reporter
                            Notary Public in and for
         18              the State of Florida at Large
 
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          1   APPEARANCES:
 
          2            Representing the Florida Cabinet:
 
          3            LAWTON CHILES
                       Governor
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                       BOB MILLIGAN
          5            Comptroller
 
          6            SANDRA B. MORTHAM
                       Secretary of State
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                       BOB BUTTERWORTH
          8            Attorney General
 
          9            BILL NELSON
                       Treasurer
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                       FRANK T. BROGAN
         11            Commissioner of Education
 
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          1                        I N D E X
 
          2   ITEM                  ACTION                PAGE
 
          3   VOTE ON PAY RAISES:
 
          4                       Approved                  7
 
          5   STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION:
              (Presented by Ash Williams, Jr.,
          6       Executive Director)
 
          7    1                  Approved                  8
               2                  Approved                  8
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              DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE:
          9   (Presented by J. Ben Watkins, III,
                  Director)
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               1                  Approved                  9
         11    2                  Approved                  9
               3                  Approved                 10
         12    4                  Approved                 10
 
         13   INFORMATION RESOURCE COMMISSION:
              (Presented by P.J. Ponder, Jr.,
         14       Interim Executive Director)
 
         15    1                  Approved                 11
               2                  Approved                 11
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              STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION:
         17   (Presented by Robert L. Bedford, Ph.D.,
                  Deputy Commissioner)
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               1                  Approved                 12
         19    2                  Approved                 12
               3                  Approved                 28
         20    4                  Approved                 28
               5                  Approved                 29
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          1                         I N D E X
                                   (Continued)
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              ITEM                  ACTION                PAGE
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              ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION:
          4   (Presented by Robert B. Bradley, Ph.D.,
                  Secretary)
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               1                  Approved                 30
          6    2                  Approved                 30
               3                  Approved                 30
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              MARINE FISHERIES COMMISSION:
          8   (Presented by Russell S. Nelson, Ph.D.,
                  Executive Director)
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               A                  Approved                 32
         10    B                  Approved                 32
               C                  Approved                 33
         11    D                  Approved                 33
               E                  Approved                 33
         12    F                  Approved                 34
 
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          1                         I N D E X
                                   (Continued)
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              ITEM                  ACTION                PAGE
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              BOARD OF TRUSTEES,
          4   INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT
              TRUST FUND:
          5   (Presented by Virginia B. Wetherell,
                  Secretary)
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               1                  Approved                 42
          7    2                  Approved                 42
               3                  Deferred                 42
          8    4                  Approved                 42
               5                  Approved                 43
          9    6                  Approved                 43
               7                  Approved                 43
         10    8                  Approved                 43
               9                  Deferred                 44
         11   10                  Approved                 44
 
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                                VOTE ON PAY RAISES
                                   May 14, 1996
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          1                  P R O C E E D I N G S
 
          2            (The vote on Executive Directors' pay raises
 
          3        and agenda items commenced at 10:27 a.m.)
 
          4            GOVERNOR CHILES:  At an earlier meeting, I
 
          5       proposed that we provide some salary increases
 
          6       for our Executive Directors.  At that time,
 
          7       there was the feeling on the part of members of
 
          8       the Cabinet that we should wait till the
 
          9       legislative session was over, see what the
 
         10       Legislature did in regard to pay raises for all
 
         11       State workers.
 
         12            The Legislature has taken up and passed
 
         13       provisions for a pay raise for all State
 
         14       workers, including up to a 10 percent for
 
         15       workers below a certain level.
 
         16            I would like to renew the request -- or my
 
         17       motion -- or my move to approve the
 
         18       Executive Directors' pay raises.
 
         19            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  I'll make
 
         20       that motion, Governor.
 
         21            TREASURER NELSON:  And I second.
 
         22            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's been moved and
 
         23       seconded.
 
         24            Let's call the roll on that.
 
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          1       Commissioner Brogan.
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Aye.
 
          3            COURT REPORTER GILBERT:
 
          4       Commissioner Crawford.
 
          5            Sorry.
 
          6            Commissioner Nelson.
 
          7            TREASURER NELSON:  Yes.
 
          8            COURT REPORTER GILBERT:
 
          9       Comptroller Milligan.
 
         10            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Yes.
 
         11            COURT REPORTER GILBERT:
 
         12       General Butterworth.
 
         13            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Yes.
 
         14            COURT REPORTER GILBERT:  Secretary Mortham.
 
         15            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  No.
 
         16            COURT REPORTER GILBERT:  Governor Chiles.
 
         17            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Aye.  Yes.
 
         18            By your vote, you have approved the
 
         19       Executive Directors' pay raises.
 
         20            Our next meeting will be held on May 29th.
 
         21            (The Vote on Pay Raises was concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Now we'll go to the State
 
          2       Board of Administration.
 
          3            MR. WILLIAMS:  Item 1 is the minutes of the
 
          4       April 23 meeting.
 
          5            TREASURER NELSON:  I move it.
 
          6            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Second.
 
          7            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          8            Without objection, they're approved.
 
          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  Item 2 is an interest rate
 
         10       exception for the Lake Bernadette Community
 
         11       Development District.
 
         12            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  I move it.
 
         13            TREASURER NELSON:  Second.
 
         14            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         15            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you.
 
         17            (The State Board of Administration Agenda
 
         18       was concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Bond Finance.
 
          2            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 1 is approval of
 
          3       the minutes of the April 9th meeting.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So move.
 
          5            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
          6            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          7            Without objection, they're approved.
 
          8            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 2 is a resolution
 
          9       to authorize the distribution of RFPs for
 
         10       financial advisors.
 
         11            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         12            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         13            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         14            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         15            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 3 is a report of
 
         16       award of 300 million dollars in revenue bonds
 
         17       for the Department of Environmental Protection's
 
         18       Preservation 2000 program.  This is the sixth
 
         19       installment of a 10-year program that was
 
         20       initiated in 1991.  Bids were received on
 
         21       April 10th at the Division, and the bonds were
 
         22       awarded to the low bidder at a true interest
 
         23       cost of 5.52 percent.
 
         24            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Motion.
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Motion.

 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          2            Without objection, it's approved.
 
          3            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 4 is a report of
 
          4       award of a 35 million dollar credit facility for
 
          5       the State's consolidated equipment financing
 
          6       program, which is administered by the
 
          7       Comptroller's Office.
 
          8            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  So move.
 
          9            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         10            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         11            MR. WATKINS:  Thank you.
 
         12            (The Division of Bond Finance Agenda was
 
         13       concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Information Resource
 
          2       Commission.
 
          3            MR. PONDER:  Governor, item 1 is approval
 
          4       of the minutes of February 27th.
 
          5            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          6            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          7            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          8            Without objection, they're approved.
 
          9            MR. PONDER:  Item 2 is the Quarterly
 
         10       Performance Report for the period ending
 
         11       March 31st.
 
         12            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         14            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         15            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         16            (The Information Resource Commission Agenda
 
         17       was concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  State Board of
 
          2       Education.
 
          3            DR. BEDFORD:  Governor Chiles, members of
 
          4       the State Board of Education, good morning.
 
          5            First item is minutes of the meeting held
 
          6       March 28th, 1996.
 
          7            TREASURER NELSON:  Motion.
 
          8            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
          9            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         10            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         11            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 2, quarterly reports for
 
         12       January 1st through March 31st, 1996.
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval.
 
         14            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         16            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         17            DR. BEDFORD:  Item number 3 is the
 
         18       recommendations of the Articulation Coordinating
 
         19       Committee.  You each received a packet, explains
 
         20       that committee substitute for Senate Bill 2330
 
         21       required the Articulation Coordinating Committee
 
         22       to make certain recommendations to the State
 
         23       Board of Education.
 
         24            And today with us, we have two gentlemen
 
         25       that are going to come forward.  Dr. Tom Furlong

 
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          1       who is the Deputy Executive Director, Division
 
          2       of Community Colleges; and Dr. David Spence, the
 
          3       Executive Vice Chancellor for the Division of
 
          4       State Universities.
 
          5            And while they're coming forward, I would
 
          6       like to tell you, this was just an enormous
 
          7       task.  And I want to thank the many, many people
 
          8       in the community colleges and State University
 
          9       System that were involved in this task.
 
         10            And as these gentlemen explain it to you,
 
         11       I think you'll get the idea that we expected
 
         12       this might take forever, and cause hard
 
         13       feelings, and be one of those gigantic kind of
 
         14       challenges.  And it went very, very smoothly,
 
         15       and I'm indebted to these two gentlemen as they
 
         16       come forward.
 
         17            MR. FURLONG:  Good morning, Governor --
 
         18            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Good morning.
 
         19            MR. FURLONG:  -- and members of the
 
         20       Cabinet, I'm Tom Furlong.  I'm the Deputy
 
         21       Director of State Board of Community Colleges.
 
         22       Pleased to have a chance to share this with you
 
         23       today.
 
         24            This is the so-called time to degree
 
         25       legislation that passed by the '95 Legislature,

 
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          1       and we've spent most of the past year working on
 
          2       this.  I think most of the folks in higher
 
          3       education were supportive of the various
 
          4       elements of it.
 
          5            But as Bob just said, we were a little
 
          6       worried we could pull off some of the things I'm
 
          7       going to mention to you in about a six-month
 
          8       period that we had to do it, and then also
 
          9       implement it by this coming August.  And I think
 
         10       we've done -- made really good progress.
 
         11            At the June meeting last year, the
 
         12       Articulation Coordinating Committee, we put
 
         13       together an Oversight Committee that really was
 
         14       the key to this.  The group consisted of myself
 
         15       and Dave Spence, the Executive Vice Chancellor,
 
         16       as Chairs.
 
         17            But the really important thing was we had
 
         18       four or five community college presidents, and
 
         19       four or five provosts from the state
 
         20       universities that came to every meeting; were
 
         21       involved in every decision; and when they went
 
         22       back to the campus, were able to get the thing
 
         23       moving so that we were implementing it as we
 
         24       went along.
 
         25            The key recommendations that we had to

 
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          1       address were getting all of our community
 
          2       colleges and universities in about a six-month
 
          3       period to a standard 36 hours of general
 
          4       education requirements.  And that's one of the
 
          5       items that's before you today.
 
          6            And the range had been from 36 to about
 
          7       49.  Everyone would have to come down to 36;
 
          8       would have to identify the general ed courses;
 
          9       and submit them to the Articulation Committee,
 
         10       and ultimately to you, as an inventory of what's
 
         11       available in the system.
 
         12            They didn't have to be the same 36 hours,
 
         13       but they had to be identified in five category
 
         14       areas to help transfer students between
 
         15       community college and universities, and also
 
         16       among institutions.
 
         17            That's been completely finished, and that's
 
         18       before you today.  That's primarily an inventory
 
         19       that'll be updated once a year, and we'll be
 
         20       back in January of each year to update that
 
         21       list.
 
         22            A second major requirement that really
 
         23       doesn't need to go to the Cabinet, it stops at
 
         24       the Articulation Coordinating Committee, but
 
         25       probably took the bulk of our time, and is if --

 
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          1       that's the folder that you probably have in your
 
          2       office -- was the identification of common
 
          3       prerequisites for all of the programs in the
 
          4       State University System that community college
 
          5       students might be transferring into.
 
          6            As we got into this, we discovered there
 
          7       were 231 programs that our students might
 
          8       transfer into.  Prerequisites were known.  There
 
          9       were local articulation meetings, for example,
 
         10       between Tallahassee Community College and
 
         11       Florida State, or Santa Fe and University of
 
         12       Florida.
 
         13            But this was an attempt for statewide
 
         14       common prerequisites.  So it required us to put
 
         15       together 23 academic discipline committees to
 
         16       address these 231 areas.
 
         17            After about six months' worth of work, and
 
         18       you can imagine the arguments among faculty
 
         19       trying to get exactly what the standard
 
         20       prerequisites could be, and then making
 
         21       recommendations to our group, we've completed
 
         22       now 225 of the programs.  And there -- they will
 
         23       be in counseling manuals this coming fall.
 
         24            The remaining six programs are primarily in
 
         25       areas like music ed, art ed, PE, health science

 
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          1       ed, landscape architecture, had unique
 
          2       problems.  And we're planning on having a
 
          3       meeting in January -- I mean, in June to
 
          4       complete work on that area.
 
          5            The other major activity that the committee
 
          6       dealt with this year is so-called course
 
          7       leveling.  There were 1700 courses in our system
 
          8       that were at both the upper division and lower
 
          9       division level.
 
         10            This was perceived by the Legislature, and
 
         11       others, as causing a transfer problem, and so
 
         12       these were all addressed by the faculty
 
         13       committees, ultimately by our committee, to be
 
         14       leveled either up or down, upper division
 
         15       courses, or lower division.
 
         16            So now you've got the faculty dealing with
 
         17       everybody else's courses and having to make
 
         18       these decisions in that same time frame.
 
         19            That activity's been completed, with the
 
         20       exception of 171 courses that were just so
 
         21       unique that we've referred those to the common
 
         22       course numbering system.  And they'll be back
 
         23       with the recommendation.
 
         24            But the others in that 1700 have all been
 
         25       completed now.

 
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          1            Another piece of this that I didn't mention
 
          2       was we also, the year prior, had required of
 
          3       community colleges, which had ranged from
 
          4       60 hours to 67 hours to get the Associate of
 
          5       Arts degree, to go to 60 hours.  So all 28 are
 
          6       now at 60 hours.
 
          7            This year, the universities were to address
 
          8       the issue of getting their programs, the 231
 
          9       programs, to a 120 hours to the extent
 
         10       possible.  There was a provision for exceptions
 
         11       that Dave's going to address where the
 
         12       Board of Regents could come in, and with cause,
 
         13       show why a program should still be above 120.
 
         14            If that occurred, then a community college
 
         15       would be eligible to do -- go above 60 and serve
 
         16       half of the credits in one of those larger
 
         17       programs.
 
         18            A good example would potentially be
 
         19       architecture, which is a five-year program at
 
         20       many schools.  So the 60-hour, 120-hour issue
 
         21       was addressed.
 
         22            And I guess the -- one of the overriding
 
         23       things that we were real pleased about was in
 
         24       attempting to shorten the time, to help
 
         25       students, and to save dollars, what we didn't

 
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          1       want to lose was the ability for students to
 
          2       take some electives and potentially change their
 
          3       major and get penalized.
 
          4            So the -- one of the overriding goals,
 
          5       there'll be at least 3, and potentially 6 to 9
 
          6       to 12 hours of free electives beyond
 
          7       general ed that weren't used up by the common
 
          8       prerequisites that were coming out of the
 
          9       university system.
 
         10            I think in every case that we've already
 
         11       approved, we were able to accomplish that.  And
 
         12       in most programs, it's more like 6 to 12 hours
 
         13       are still available for free electives.
 
         14            There was a lot of press coverage and
 
         15       concern in our system all along that there'd be
 
         16       no room for such electives.  They are still
 
         17       there, and that took a lot of working together
 
         18       with the two systems.
 
         19            The -- so finally the committee made these
 
         20       recommendations to the Articulation Coordinating
 
         21       Committee, and one or two other items that we
 
         22       also have adopted.
 
         23            The -- as soon as we finished this, already
 
         24       faculty are looking at new programs, changing
 
         25       programs, this type of thing.  There's no

 
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          1       prohibition to that.  So this obviously becomes
 
          2       an evolving document that will change over
 
          3       time.
 
          4            So we've set up in the memo in front of you
 
          5       a time frame where those changes would come back
 
          6       to the Oversight Committee for us to take to the
 
          7       ACC group so that there is a process for these
 
          8       to change over time.
 
          9            And finally, when you have a pile that
 
         10       large and you have a student trying to find out
 
         11       what he's supposed to do, there was provision in
 
         12       the legislation to take what we completed and
 
         13       put it into a computerized format for counseling
 
         14       manuals for our students around the system.
 
         15            And the next agenda item where you're
 
         16       dealing with some of our computer information
 
         17       for the community colleges and a degree audit
 
         18       system that the Legislature addressed again this
 
         19       year, becomes part of this.  And that's --
 
         20       that's moving along, we have a joint regents
 
         21       community college group that hopes to have a
 
         22       recommendation on that by the end of the summer.
 
         23            The other thing Commissioner asked me to
 
         24       mention very briefly was in the area of
 
         25       remediation.  It really isn't part of this

 
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          1       directly.  But obviously one of the significant
 
          2       ways to reduce time to degree is to address
 
          3       remediation and the need for it.
 
          4            While we worked on this topic, we also
 
          5       worked with the Commissioner in terms of a
 
          6       letter that he and Charlie Reed and
 
          7       Clark Maxwell have sent out to all the parents
 
          8       of all the eighth graders in the state, which
 
          9       encourages them to have their students take the
 
         10       higher level courses in math, English, and
 
         11       reading to decrease the need for remediation.
 
         12            And, Commissioner, we're real pleased you
 
         13       had them pass the 30 million dollars in the
 
         14       legislative session that we just completed,
 
         15       which provides 20 million to school districts
 
         16       for students who are successful in passing our
 
         17       placement test and not needing remediation,
 
         18       there's a 20 million dollar incentive fund.
 
         19            In addition, there's a 10 million dollar
 
         20       incentive fund for those school districts and
 
         21       schools that have their students take these
 
         22       higher level courses.
 
         23            If that -- if they take those courses,
 
         24       there's strong data that those remedial numbers
 
         25       will go down, and that's going to reduce our

 
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          1       time to degree significantly.  And that becomes
 
          2       very important as the Legislature moves toward
 
          3       funding off of this time to degree concept.
 
          4            The universities starting this year have
 
          5       some limits on them in terms of how many hours
 
          6       the State will pay for.  It's just inevitable
 
          7       that a community college system in a year or two
 
          8       will also have some of those.
 
          9            In our performance based budgeting that
 
         10       passed in the current legislative session, there
 
         11       are incentive -- there's an incentive pot for us
 
         12       to bring those hours down to 12 million dollar
 
         13       fund.  And, again, this time the degree package
 
         14       and the remedial package together will address
 
         15       that.
 
         16            And, Dave, are you here?
 
         17            Ask Dave Spence from the State University
 
         18       System to maybe add a few things.
 
         19            MR. SPENCE:  Governor, members of the
 
         20       Cabinet.  Good morning.  I'm Dave Spence,
 
         21       Executive Vice Chancellor with the University
 
         22       System.  And I'll just take a minute.
 
         23            I do want to tell you that I -- in March of
 
         24       '95, our provosts from the ten universities
 
         25       developed a plan for making the progression to

 
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          1       the baccalaureate degree more efficient, more
 
          2       effective, more productive.
 
          3            There is kind of the perception around,
 
          4       I think even to this day, that this was
 
          5       something that was done to the universities and
 
          6       to the community colleges.  I guess my main
 
          7       point is that this was a tremendous cooperative
 
          8       effort among the Department of Education, the
 
          9       community colleges, the universities'
 
         10       Articulation Coordinating Committee.
 
         11            The -- I made quite a reputation in the
 
         12       Legislature, the 1995 Legislature, whining about
 
         13       how this couldn't be done in any less than
 
         14       three years.  The Legislature and legislation
 
         15       has a way of -- of encouraging you to reexamine
 
         16       your schedule.
 
         17            And -- I'm still amazed, and I take -- Tom
 
         18       takes no credit for this -- that our faculties
 
         19       and our provosts, the academic leaders, the
 
         20       presidents of all 38 institutions, have got all
 
         21       this done.
 
         22            This is nothing less than reforming the
 
         23       curriculum of the community colleges in the
 
         24       universities.  And that's really saying
 
         25       something in this state because of the 2 plus 2

 
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          1       system where they're so interlocked.  That's,
 
          2       I guess, the first point.
 
          3            The other thing would be to point out that
 
          4       there's been a tremendous amount of work done
 
          5       and result.  Just within the -- the university
 
          6       system, the time to degree legislation called on
 
          7       us to reduce as many of our 614 programs -- now,
 
          8       many of those programs are duplicated across our
 
          9       ten universities -- but reduce each one of these
 
         10       614 programs, where possible, to a 120 degree
 
         11       hours.
 
         12            In six months, the universities have
 
         13       reduced over 200 degree programs.  Before the
 
         14       time to degree legislation, I believe, it was
 
         15       just over 50 percent, 52 percent of
 
         16       undergraduate students were studying in programs
 
         17       that took 120 hours, four years to graduate
 
         18       from.
 
         19            Beginning next fall, we project that
 
         20       student -- 84 percent, 84 percent of the
 
         21       undergraduate students will be studying in
 
         22       programs with 120 hours.
 
         23            Naturally, in reducing these programs,
 
         24       we've taken all the necessary steps, we hope, to
 
         25       maintain the quality.

 
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          1            The last point, I promise, is that perhaps
 
          2       the thing that was most crucial to improving
 
          3       student progression from the freshman year
 
          4       through the senior year, through the
 
          5       baccalaureate degree, was this part of the time
 
          6       to degree legislation that had to do with
 
          7       standardizing, making common the courses that
 
          8       you need to take to be admitted to the major
 
          9       area of study in the junior and senior year.
 
         10            That's extremely challenging in our system,
 
         11       because we're the only system in the country
 
         12       where over half of the students who get a
 
         13       baccalaureate degree begin in the community
 
         14       colleges.
 
         15            And I never would have guessed -- I never
 
         16       would have guessed that our faculties would have
 
         17       come together -- our faculties can't agree on
 
         18       anything, you understand -- but they came
 
         19       together in six months.
 
         20            And I figured we'd have out of the
 
         21       230 different programs, at least 50 or
 
         22       60 exceptions that the Board would -- we'd go to
 
         23       the Board of Regents and have them approve.  So
 
         24       far, we have eight or nine.  And I think that's
 
         25       really reflective of how the universities and

 
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          1       the community colleges have responded so well to
 
          2       this initiative.
 
          3            Thank you.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Governor, before I
 
          5       move this item, I'd also like to thank the
 
          6       representatives from community colleges and the
 
          7       SUS.  It has been a long time coming, I know.
 
          8       But I think that the articulation that we're
 
          9       starting to see between the three entities,
 
         10       K-12, community colleges, and state
 
         11       universities, is better than it has been in a
 
         12       long, long time.
 
         13            And we all recognize that you can't make a
 
         14       change at the university system that doesn't
 
         15       ultimately ripple back and affect kindergarten,
 
         16       and you can't make a change at kindergarten that
 
         17       doesn't ultimately go on to affect community
 
         18       colleges and the state university.
 
         19            And some of the things you've heard made
 
         20       mention of here today, as well as the creation
 
         21       of the consistently applied and administered
 
         22       college placement tests for entering freshmen
 
         23       and community college SUS, the cut score will
 
         24       now be consistently applied.  That'll give us a
 
         25       better database as far as remediation is

 
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          1       concerned.
 
          2            We're now going to have in place the
 
          3       10th grade version of that college placement
 
          4       test on a voluntary basis so students can
 
          5       actually start to take it and understand what
 
          6       it's all about.
 
          7            You've heard about the -- the challenge to
 
          8       more rigorous course work and the incentive that
 
          9       was granted to us by the Legislature for those
 
         10       schools and those districts who take up that
 
         11       challenge, and the schools who bring down their
 
         12       remediation rate.
 
         13            Pre-service activities that are changing in
 
         14       our colleges of education, staff development
 
         15       opportunities we've never had before, and help
 
         16       with our critically low performing schools, as
 
         17       you've heard me talk about.
 
         18            So we have a long way to go, there's no
 
         19       doubt about it.  But better articulation,
 
         20       I think, than ever before.  And this was a major
 
         21       step forward I think for the students of the
 
         22       state of Florida.
 
         23            So with that, I would move this item,
 
         24       Governor.
 
         25            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's been moved and sec--

 
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          1            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
          2            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
          3            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- seconded.
 
          4            Without objection, it's approved.
 
          5            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 4, a contract for the
 
          6       implementation of integrated design for Division
 
          7       of Community College database.
 
          8            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So moved.
 
          9            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
         10            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         11            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         12            DR. BEDFORD:  Item  5 --
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Just a -- just a
 
         14       quick word about that.
 
         15            As billed, that is going to put in one of
 
         16       the final missing pieces on a consistent
 
         17       database with K-12, community college, state
 
         18       university, that's not only going to benefit
 
         19       faculty and staff, but'll benefit the students
 
         20       of the community college level as well.
 
         21            And it's -- that also has been a long time
 
         22       coming.  It's going to be an important piece of
 
         23       the puzzle.
 
         24            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 5, contract for the
 
         25       development of the Florida Comprehensive

 
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          1       Assessment Test.
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So move.
 
          3            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
          4            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          5            Without objection, it's approved.
 
          6            DR. BEDFORD:  Thank you.
 
          7            (The State Board of Education Agenda was
 
          8       concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:
 
          2       Administration Commission.
 
          3            DR. BRADLEY:  Item 1, recommend approval of
 
          4       the minutes of the meeting held April 23rd,
 
          5       1996.
 
          6            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          7            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          9            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         10            DR. BRADLEY:  Recommend items A, B, and C,
 
         11       which transfer general revenue appropriations in
 
         12       the Department of Health and Rehabilitative
 
         13       Services.
 
         14            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         15            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         16            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         17            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         18            DR. BRADLEY:  Item 3, recommend the
 
         19       transfer of general revenue appropriations in
 
         20       the Department of Management Services.
 
         21            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         23            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         24            Without objection, item 3 is approved.
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Marine Fisheries
 
          2       Commission.
 
          3            DR. NELSON:  Good morning.
 
          4            Item A is a series of minutes, previous
 
          5       meetings.
 
          6            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          7            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval.
 
          8            Second.
 
          9            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         10            Without objection, they're approved.
 
         11            DR. NELSON:  Item B is a technical revision
 
         12       to the gulf king mackerel size limit regulation.
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move it.
 
         14            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         15            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Second.
 
         16            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         17            DR. NELSON:  Item C is a --
 
         18            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Without objection, it's
 
         19       approved.
 
         20            DR. NELSON:  Excuse me.
 
         21            Item C is -- implements a one-year
 
         22       moratorium in the trap production schedule in
 
         23       the spiny lobster fishery.
 
         24            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.

 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          2            Without objection, it's approved.
 
          3            DR. NELSON:  Item D allows for the use of
 
          4       recreational frame nets off certain bridges that
 
          5       have been designated to use as fishing piers.
 
          6            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          7            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          9            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         10            DR. NELSON:  Item E is the northeast
 
         11       shrimping regulations.  It -- this rule will
 
         12       implement a requirement for fish exclusion
 
         13       devices in shrimp trawls in the northeast
 
         14       regions.
 
         15            It also eliminates the current minimum size
 
         16       law, and establishes a larger minimum mesh size
 
         17       in shrimp trawls for -- to allow smaller shrimp
 
         18       to get through the mesh.
 
         19            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         20            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approved.
 
         21            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         22            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         23            DR. NELSON:  Item F is the bait fish trawl
 
         24       fishery.  This issue originated last fall after
 
         25       this -- the Cabinet approved regulations which

 
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          1       prohibited the use of bottom tending trawls for
 
          2       finfish species.
 
          3            The Commission had at that time contacted
 
          4       industry in all regions of the state, indicated
 
          5       that we were interested in looking at new
 
          6       proposals for other types of gear, alternative
 
          7       gears.  The gear type that was brought forward
 
          8       is used in the panhandle.
 
          9            It's the only one that we have received a
 
         10       direct request for.  The Commission's gone
 
         11       through the regulations, in which allows the use
 
         12       of a surface trawl for bait fish species in the
 
         13       panhandle, which we think will provide a
 
         14       sufficient -- I don't want to use that word --
 
         15       an alternative to the purse seine gear that has
 
         16       been prohibited by the net ban.
 
         17            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         18            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         19            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and --
 
         20            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  But question --
 
         21            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- seconded.
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- Governor.
 
         23            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Without objection, it's
 
         24       approved.
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  This obviously will

 
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          1       put some additional pressure on this
 
          2       particular -- or these particular species.
 
          3            Is that going to be somehow studied or
 
          4       watched or --
 
          5            DR. NELSON:  Well, Commissioner, we do try
 
          6       to monitor every regulation that we have in
 
          7       place to see if it's getting its intended
 
          8       effect.  In this case, I think I can fairly --
 
          9       I'm fairly confident in saying that at least in
 
         10       the near term, the pressure from this kind of
 
         11       gear is not going to be as extensive as that
 
         12       which was previously used from a much larger
 
         13       purse seine gear that is no longer legal.
 
         14            So this fish will have scaled back.  And
 
         15       the real question is whether or not sufficient
 
         16       production will exist to replace that gear.
 
         17            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Thanks, Governor.
 
         18            DR. NELSON:  Thank you.
 
         19            MR. FUCHS:  Richard Van Munster wants to
 
         20       speak.
 
         21            DR. NELSON:  Where is he?
 
         22            Richard Van Munster would like to speak on
 
         23       the trawl issue.
 
         24            Sorry, Richard.
 
         25            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  Thank you.

 
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          1            My name is Richard Van Munster.  I'm a
 
          2       fisherman that he didn't contact.  And I'm part
 
          3       of the industry that he didn't contact.
 
          4            I have a letter here that was before the
 
          5       Palm Beach County Commission --
 
          6            GOVERNOR CHILES:  This was a public
 
          7       hearing, was it not, or --
 
          8            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  I was never notified.  I
 
          9       was -- I've been off the -- off their mailing
 
         10       list, and I called about -- about a month ago
 
         11       and asked to get put back on it again.  And I
 
         12       haven't done it.
 
         13            And let me read you this.
 
         14            This is -- this was from the Palm Beach
 
         15       County Commission just last Tuesday.
 
         16            And the bait's drying up in this state.
 
         17       There's not enough to go around.  We're having
 
         18       to depend upon South America.
 
         19            Just let me read it.
 
         20            We, as long-time users and distributors of
 
         21       locally caught bait, are concerned about its
 
         22       continual availability.  We now must rely on
 
         23       other countries in South America for bait.
 
         24            Our local bait fishery is one of the oldest
 
         25       in south Florida.  It has always met the

 
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          1       requirements of Amendment 3.  It did not
 
          2       overharvest or waste, and was very limited.
 
          3            The Marine Fisheries Commission has
 
          4       recently given an unlimited quota to a few large
 
          5       boats.  We do not think this is fair.
 
          6       Harvesting bait outside 1 mile by small boats is
 
          7       impossible.
 
          8            Why encourage a fishery using 60 or 80 foot
 
          9       boats, and deny access to our 25 to 35 foot
 
         10       boats, which catch one-fifth of what they catch.
 
         11            These small boats have been completely
 
         12       stopped.  We thought Amendment 3 limited, not
 
         13       eradicated.  We believe Amendment 3 could be
 
         14       enjoined in Palm Beach County because of
 
         15       economic impact.
 
         16            That's the signatures of every drift
 
         17       fishing boat, and 90 percent of the tackle shops
 
         18       in Palm Beach County.  The Marine Fisheries
 
         19       Commission is out to stop commercial fishing in
 
         20       Florida.
 
         21            And the -- and these little trawls, these
 
         22       little top water trawls, are not going to hurt
 
         23       anything.  These 500 square foot trawls, if --
 
         24       y'all were worried about trawls -- I mean, about
 
         25       turtles and all the rest of the stuff, we

 
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          1       wouldn't have had -- had about 2 miles of the
 
          2       intercoastal waterway that's been laying
 
          3       there --
 
          4            GOVERNOR CHILES:  We were worried about
 
          5       bait fishermen being able to fish their bait in
 
          6       northwest Florida.  They came up here, they said
 
          7       they were worried about it, we asked the
 
          8       Commission to look into that.  They held a
 
          9       public hearing, they did look into that.  They
 
         10       are allowing those bait fishermen to be able to
 
         11       use some of their fishing gear.
 
         12            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  Governor, I'm a --
 
         13            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Now --
 
         14            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  -- bait fisherman.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Well then, I would
 
         16       suggest that you let us know that you've got a
 
         17       problem, and maybe you're doing that now.  I
 
         18       would suggest that you ask the Marine Commission
 
         19       to take up your problem, and the problem of all
 
         20       of those people there, and -- and they will hold
 
         21       some kind of a hearing on that.
 
         22            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  I've been doing that for
 
         23       the last six years.  I haven't missed --
 
         24            GOVERNOR CHILES:  No, I haven't --
 
         25            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  -- a meeting.

 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- seen you up here when
 
          2       the northwest fishermen came.  So, I mean --
 
          3            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  I -- we didn't know --
 
          4            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- if you want to --
 
          5            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  -- about it.  None of
 
          6       these people knew about it.
 
          7            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Then, believe me, you
 
          8       will be on the agenda, you will get a chance to
 
          9       get your fishermen together, and come before the
 
         10       Marine Fisheries Commission.
 
         11            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  Well, if this thing is
 
         12       voted in today --
 
         13            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Yes, sir.
 
         14            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  -- we will be excluded.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Pardon?
 
         16            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  We will be excluded.
 
         17            GOVERNOR CHILES:  No, sir.  This right now
 
         18       gives them some permission that they did not
 
         19       have before.
 
         20            Now, if you want to get that permission,
 
         21       you ask for it, and let's see what the
 
         22       Marine Commission's findings will be.
 
         23            You're not excluded.  You just didn't get
 
         24       included.
 
         25            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  Well, I --

 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Because you didn't ask,
 
          2       or we didn't --
 
          3            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  They know that -- that --
 
          4       they know me.  They know that the -- that the
 
          5       mile prohibition with the net ban has totally
 
          6       eradicated our fishery.  They know that.
 
          7            GOVERNOR CHILES:  That's exactly what the
 
          8       northwest Florida fishermen came and said, and
 
          9       that's why they got a meeting.
 
         10            Now, you know, if you want to get a
 
         11       meeting, we will give you a meeting.  The
 
         12       Commission will do that.  You get your fishermen
 
         13       together, you petition the Commission, we'll
 
         14       have a meeting.
 
         15            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  We would like to do that.
 
         16            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Good.  It's done -- it'll
 
         17       be done.
 
         18            MR. VAN MUNSTER:  All right.  Thank you.
 
         19            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Thank you.
 
         20            DR. NELSON:  We have, in fact, held since
 
         21       this time, three hearings, one in southeast
 
         22       Florida.  And we are still -- the door is not
 
         23       shut here.  The Commission is still open and
 
         24       soliciting any kind of proposals for alternative
 
         25       gear.

 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Be sure and put him on
 
          2       your mailing list.
 
          3            DR. NELSON:  I'll make sure he's on there,
 
          4       Governor.
 
          5            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Thank you.
 
          6            DR. NELSON:  Thank you.
 
          7            (The Marine Fisheries Commission Agenda was
 
          8       concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Board of Trustees.
 
          2            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 1, minutes.
 
          3            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          5            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          6            Without objection, they're approved.
 
          7            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 2, recommend approval
 
          8       of submerged lands aquaculture leases.
 
          9            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  So move.
 
         10            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         11            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         12            Without objection, they're approved.
 
         13            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 3, recommend deferral
 
         14       till June 13th.
 
         15            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move deferral.
 
         16            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         17            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         18            Without objection, motion to defer is
 
         19       granted.
 
         20            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 4, an option agreement
 
         21       for the Florida Keys ecosystem CARL project.
 
         22            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         23            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         24            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         25            Without objection, it's approved.

 
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          1            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 5, two purchase
 
          2       agreements for FSU.
 
          3            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          5            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          6            Without objection, it's approved.
 
          7            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 6, a purchase
 
          8       agreement for South Savannas CARL project.
 
          9            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval.
 
         10            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         11            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         12            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         13            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 7, an option agreement
 
         14       for Crystal River State Archeological Site.
 
         15            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move it.
 
         16            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         17            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         18            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         19            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 8, a purchase
 
         20       agreement for Department of Agriculture, and a
 
         21       waiver of survey.
 
         22            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         23            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         24            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         25            Without objection, it's approved.

 
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          1            MS. WETHERELL:  Item 9, we're recommending
 
          2       deferral till June 13th.
 
          3            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  You've got it.
 
          4            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move deferral.
 
          5            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          6            Without objection, the motion to defer is
 
          7       granted.
 
          8            MS. WETHERELL:  Additional item 10,
 
          9       recommending the purchase of the Pineland Site
 
         10       Complex CARL project, and a waiver of appraisal
 
         11       requirements.
 
         12            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move it.
 
         13            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         14            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         16            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         17            (The Board of Trustees of the Internal
 
         18       Improvement Trust Fund Agenda was concluded.)
 
         19                             *
 
         20            (The Cabinet meeting was concluded at
 
         21       10:57 a.m.)
 
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          1                 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
 
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          4   STATE OF FLORIDA:
 
          5   COUNTY OF LEON:
 
          6            I, LAURIE L. GILBERT, do hereby certify that
 
          7   the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at the
 
          8   time and place therein designated; that my shorthand
 
          9   notes were thereafter translated; and the foregoing
 
         10   pages numbered 1 through 45 are a true and correct
 
         11   record of the aforesaid proceedings.
 
         12            I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a relative,
 
         13   employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties,
 
         14   nor relative or employee of such attorney or counsel,
 
         15   or financially interested in the foregoing action.
 
         16            DATED THIS 27TH day of MAY, 1996.
 
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         19                           LAURIE L. GILBERT, RPR, CCR
                                      100 Salem Court
         20                           Tallahassee, Florida 32301
                                      (904) 878-2221
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