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          2                  T H E   C A B I N E T
 
          3             S T A T E   O F   F L O R I D A
 
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                                 Representing:
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                          STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
          6                  DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
                           DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY
          7                     AND MOTOR VEHICLES
                             STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
          8                ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
                             TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL
          9                   IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
                     DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
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         11            The above agencies came to be heard before
              THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable Governor Chiles
         12   presiding, in the Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03,
              The Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida, on Tuesday,
         13   April 9, 1996, commencing at approximately 9:49 a.m.
 
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         16                       Reported by:
 
         17                    LAURIE L. GILBERT
                        Registered Professional Reporter
         18                 Certified Court Reporter
                            Notary Public in and for
         19              the State of Florida at Large
 
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          1   APPEARANCES:
 
          2            Representing the Florida Cabinet:
 
          3            LAWTON CHILES
                       Governor
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                       BOB CRAWFORD
          5            Commissioner of Agriculture
 
          6            BOB MILLIGAN
                       Comptroller
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                       SANDRA B. MORTHAM
          8            Secretary of State
 
          9            BOB BUTTERWORTH
                       Attorney General
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                       BILL NELSON
         11            Treasurer
 
         12            FRANK T. BROGAN
                       Commissioner of Education
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          1                        I N D E X
 
          2   ITEM                  ACTION                PAGE
 
          3   STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION:
              (Presented by Ash Williams, Jr.,
          4       Executive Director)
 
          5    1                  Approved                  5
               2                  Approved                  5
          6
              DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE:
          7   (Presented by J. Ben Watkins, III,
                  Director)
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               1                  Approved                  6
          9    2                  Approved                  6
               3                  Approved                  7
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              DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES:
         11   (Presented by Fred O. Dickinson, III,
                  Executive Director)
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               1                  Approved                  8
         13    2                  Approved                  8
               3                  Approved                  9
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              STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION:
         15   (Presented by Robert L. Bedford, Ph.D.,
                  Deputy Commissioner)
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               1                  Approved                 10
         17    2                  Approved                 10
               3 and 4            Approved                 11
         18    5                  Approved                 72
               6                  Withdrawn                72
         19    7                  Approved                 11
               8                  Approved                 14
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          1                        I N D E X
                                   (Continued)
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              ITEM                  ACTION                PAGE
          3
              BOARD OF TRUSTEES,
          4   INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT
              TRUST FUND:
          5   (Presented by Virginia B. Wetherell,
                  Secretary)
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               1                  Approved                 74
          7    2                  Approved                 74
               3                  Approved                 74
          8    4                  Approved                 74
              Substitute 5        Approved                106
          9    6                  Approved                107
               7                  Approved                107
         10    8                  Approved                107
               9                  Approved                107
         11   10                  Approved                108
              11                  Approved                108
         12   12                  Approved                108
 
         13   DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION:
              (Presented by Virginia B. Wetherell,
         14       Secretary)
 
         15    1                  Approved                109
               2                  Withdrawn               109
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         17            CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER            110
 
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                                  April 9, 1996
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          1                  P R O C E E D I N G S
 
          2            (The agenda items commenced at 9:56 a.m.)
 
          3            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Now we're ready for the
 
          4       State Board of Administration.
 
          5            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  I move the minutes.
 
          6            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Motion on the minutes.
 
          7            TREASURER NELSON:  Second.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Seconded.
 
          9            Without objection, the minutes are adopted.
 
         10            MR. WILLIAMS:  Item 2 is a fiscal
 
         11       sufficiency for the Florida
 
         12       Housing Finance Agency.
 
         13            TREASURER NELSON:  Move it.
 
         14            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Second.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's been moved and
 
         16       seconded.
 
         17            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         18            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you.
 
         19            (The State Board of Administration Agenda
 
         20       was concluded.)
 
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                             DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Bond Finance.
 
          2            MR. WATKINS:  Three items on the agenda
 
          3       this morning.
 
          4            Item 1 is approval of the minutes of the
 
          5       March 28 meeting.
 
          6            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Motion.
 
          7            GOVERNOR CHILES:  There's a motion.
 
          8            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          9            GOVERNOR CHILES:  And a second on the
 
         10       minutes.
 
         11            Without objection, the minutes are
 
         12       approved.
 
         13            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 2 is a resolution
 
         14       authorizing negotiated sale on behalf of the
 
         15       Florida Housing Finance Agency of up to
 
         16       40 million dollars in single family mortgage
 
         17       revenue bonds.
 
         18            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         19            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         20            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         21            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         22            MR. WATKINS:  Item number 3 is a report of
 
         23       award of two multifamily housing bond issues
 
         24       sold on behalf of the Florida Housing Finance
 
         25       Agency.

 
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          1            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
          3            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          4            Without objection, that's approved.
 
          5            MR. WATKINS:  Thank you.
 
          6            (The Division of Bond Finance Agenda was
 
          7       concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:
 
          2       Department of Highway Safety.
 
          3            MR. DICKINSON:  Good morning.
 
          4            Governor, the first item is approval of
 
          5       minutes --
 
          6            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  So move.
 
          7            MR. DICKINSON:  -- from the
 
          8       February 27th --
 
          9            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So move.
 
         10            MR. DICKINSON:  -- Cabinet meeting.
 
         11            COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD:  Motion.
 
         12            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         13            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's been moved and
 
         14       seconded.
 
         15            Without objection, the minutes are
 
         16       approved.
 
         17            MR. DICKINSON:  Item number 2 is request
 
         18       for approval for a new contract for our
 
         19       psychological screening for incoming
 
         20       law enforcement officers.
 
         21            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         23            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         24            Without objection, that's approved.
 
         25            MR. DICKINSON:  And item number 3 is a

 
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          1       menagerie, if you will, Governor.  We're
 
          2       repealing eleven rules, amending seven rules,
 
          3       and creating four new rules to conform with the
 
          4       statutory change from last session with regard
 
          5       to our driver improvement schools.
 
          6            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
          7            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move the menagerie.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          9            Without objection, the menagerie is
 
         10       approved.
 
         11            MR. DICKINSON:  Thank you, Governor.
 
         12            (The Department of Highway Safety and Motor
 
         13       Vehicles Agenda was concluded.)
 
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          1            GOVERNOR CHILES:  State Board of Education.
 
          2            Things are rolling along too fast.
 
          3            DR. BEDFORD:  Good morning, members of the
 
          4       State Board of Education.
 
          5            Item 1, minutes of the meeting held
 
          6       February 13th and February 27th, 1996.
 
          7            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So move, Governor.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and --
 
          9            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         10            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- seconded.
 
         11            Without objection, the minutes are
 
         12       approved.
 
         13            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 2, recommendation in
 
         14       Critical Teacher Shortage Areas.
 
         15            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval.
 
         16            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         17            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         18            Without objection, it's approved.
 
         19            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 3 and 4 can be taken
 
         20       together.  They are Area of Vocational Technical
 
         21       Center designation in Orange County of Orange
 
         22       Technical Center's Westside Technical, and
 
         23       Winter Park Technical.
 
         24            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval of
 
         25       Items 3 and 4.

 
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          1            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
          2            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Without objection,
 
          3       Items 3 and 4, adopted en banc.
 
          4            DR. BEDFORD:  Items 5 and 6, I would like
 
          5       to leave for a minute and come back to, and go
 
          6       to item 7.
 
          7            Amendment to 6A, dash, 6.0571, Criteria for
 
          8       Qualification of Special Vocational Technical
 
          9       Education Program Courses.
 
         10            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Move approval.
 
         11            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Second.
 
         12            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved on item --
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- 7.
 
         14            Second.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Second?
 
         16            Is there a second?
 
         17            ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH:  Second.
 
         18            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Second.
 
         19            Without objection, Item 7 is approved.
 
         20            DR. BEDFORD:  Item 8 is a good cause item
 
         21       brought to you today.  The good cause item
 
         22       involves an amendment to the cost of living
 
         23       survey contract.  That contract is identified as
 
         24       096, dash, 001.
 
         25            The last several years, there's been many

 
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          1       questions concerning the district cost
 
          2       differential.  The legislative -- the
 
          3       Legislature funded a University of Florida study
 
          4       done by David Denslow.  The study suggested some
 
          5       changes in the methodology.  And this amendment
 
          6       would review the Denslow work, and would
 
          7       determine whether it was feasible to incorporate
 
          8       into the methodology.
 
          9            One of the reasons to bring this as a good
 
         10       cause item is that the actual survey is done in
 
         11       August, and if we are going to make any changes,
 
         12       they need to be proceeded on now.
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Move approval.
 
         14            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
         15            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
         16            Without objection --
 
         17            TREASURER NELSON:  Governor --
 
         18            May I ask a question?
 
         19            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Yes.
 
         20            TREASURER NELSON:  What I don't understand
 
         21       is that this looks like this is a study of a
 
         22       study.  Is that correct?
 
         23            DR. BEDFORD:  Link, do you want to come and
 
         24       help me?
 
         25            Link Jarrett.

 
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          1            MR. JARRETT:  This is not a study of a
 
          2       study.  It -- the firm with which we contract --
 
          3       with which you've contracted is the firm that
 
          4       does the survey.  And there are some technical
 
          5       kinds of things that have to be assured in order
 
          6       that you get a valid Florida price level index.
 
          7       We can't merely make adjustments to that
 
          8       procedure without having them done very
 
          9       thoughtfully and carefully in order to maintain
 
         10       the integrity of that index.
 
         11            TREASURER NELSON:  And so this is costing
 
         12       us an additional 12,000.
 
         13            MR. JARRETT:  Yes, sir.
 
         14            TREASURER NELSON:  And what was the
 
         15       original contract price?
 
         16            MR. JARRETT:  Two hundred and
 
         17       thirty thousand for the survey process.  That
 
         18       is, they collect prices for 118 different market
 
         19       basket items in all 67 counties.
 
         20            And this is -- of course, as you know, this
 
         21       affects the distribution of 8 billion dollars to
 
         22       our Florida school districts.  So it needs to be
 
         23       handled in a manner that will give us results
 
         24       that don't place us in a position that
 
         25       jeopardizes the integrity of that particular

 
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          1       component of the formula.
 
          2            TREASURER NELSON:  And what is the $12,000
 
          3       extra buying us?
 
          4            MR. JARRETT:  It is going to buy them
 
          5       reviewing carefully both the short-term and
 
          6       long-term recommendations in Dr. Denslow's
 
          7       study, and adjusting, where appropriate, the
 
          8       survey methodology to incorporate the -- the
 
          9       adjustments.
 
         10            TREASURER NELSON:  Which should have been
 
         11       in the original $250,000 contract price.
 
         12            MR. JARRETT:  Well, this study was not
 
         13       available when the RFP and the bid was done on
 
         14       this particular contract.
 
         15            This is something that has happened in the
 
         16       last month or two in terms of the actual report
 
         17       of the Denslow study.  And, therefore, we felt
 
         18       it was appropriate and necessary for us to amend
 
         19       this contract to make sure that when the budget
 
         20       is developed, we have the most valid index that
 
         21       you can stand with as being representative of
 
         22       the cost of living in each county.
 
         23            TREASURER NELSON:  Thank you, Governor.
 
         24            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Without objection, the --
 
         25       the motion is adopted.

 
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          1            DR. BEDFORD:  Now if we could go back to
 
          2       item number 5.  I believe the Commissioner wants
 
          3       to make a presentation at this time.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Thank you.
 
          5            And, Governor, members of the Cabinet, we
 
          6       let you off the hook at the last meeting when we
 
          7       withdrew these items, so we're going to put you
 
          8       back on the hook today.
 
          9            And I'm going to go to the floor and
 
         10       shepherd you through this presentation myself.
 
         11       We tried to keep it as brief as possible based
 
         12       on the complexity of the agenda.
 
         13            So with your indulgence, I'm going to move
 
         14       down to the podium.
 
         15            DR. BEDFORD:  Frank, you might want to ask
 
         16       the audience --
 
         17            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yeah.  And while
 
         18       we're shifting around, if anybody would like to
 
         19       move to that side of the room, I'm sorry, with
 
         20       the angle of the room, that's the best we're
 
         21       going to be able to do, I'm afraid.
 
         22            And I think we're going to need these --
 
         23            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Would you speak a little
 
         24       closer to the mic?  It's a little bit hard to
 
         25       hear you --

 
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          1            COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN:  Identify yourself.
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yes, Governor.
 
          3            COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD:  The lights are kind
 
          4       of shining off your forehead, too.
 
          5            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  I knew this was a
 
          6       mistake.
 
          7            How's that?
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's too loud.
 
          9            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  That's
 
         10       Frank T. Brogan, Commissioner of Education.
 
         11            Good morning.
 
         12            And we wanted to take the opportunity to do
 
         13       this presentation to you this morning because we
 
         14       think it's of great significance, not only to
 
         15       the State Board of Education, but also to the
 
         16       State of Florida.
 
         17            And we have put together a power point
 
         18       presentation that we hope in a brief period of
 
         19       time is going to walk you through some of the
 
         20       essentials that go into the creation of
 
         21       statewide standards, the statewide assessment,
 
         22       the staff development activities that go along
 
         23       with a massive undertaking like this.
 
         24            The Governor and I and one of our State's
 
         25       finest Chief Executive Officers,

 
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          1       Mr. Jack Critchfield, recently returned from the
 
          2       National Governor's Summit on Education in
 
          3       Palisades, New York.
 
          4            We spent a day-and-a-half, and, I believe,
 
          5       Governor, there was 41, 44 governors who
 
          6       attended; a chief executive officer from
 
          7       virtually every state; as well as a significant
 
          8       group of educators at all and various levels.
 
          9            The three-pronged approach that that summit
 
         10       took, remembering that it was an offshoot of the
 
         11       summit that was held under the administration of
 
         12       George Bush back in 88-89, was to take a close
 
         13       look at three issues:  One, standards; two,
 
         14       assessment; and three, technology.
 
         15            Now, any of those individual items would be
 
         16       food for a day-and-a-half meeting of such an
 
         17       auspicious gathering.  But with that, it gave us
 
         18       the opportunity to zero in on those three
 
         19       particular items and --
 
         20            GOVERNOR CHILES:  I think if --
 
         21            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- be able to --
 
         22            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- you'd cut these lights
 
         23       up here, we could see that --
 
         24            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Would that help?
 
         25            Further still?

 
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          1            COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD:  More, yeah.
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  It gave us the
 
          3       opportunity to network with people from other
 
          4       states, and also, as we focused in at the end of
 
          5       that particular day-and-a-half conference, gave
 
          6       us the chance to recognize that essentially what
 
          7       the conference was calling for was for each of
 
          8       the 50 states to create a system of statewide
 
          9       standard.
 
         10            Very simply put, what it is we expect
 
         11       children in the state of Florida to know and to
 
         12       be able to do as they move through elementary
 
         13       school, middle school, high school, and so on.
 
         14            That was discussed at length.  Also was
 
         15       discussed, the possibility of creating a
 
         16       national clearinghouse on a non-federal basis
 
         17       that would assist us in reviewing each state's
 
         18       standards to make certain that they were
 
         19       challenging, to make certain that nothing was
 
         20       left to the imagination, et cetera.
 
         21            Also discussed was the issue of
 
         22       assessment.  We're going to discuss the fact
 
         23       that there are two types of assessment.  But the
 
         24       one that was primarily discussed at that
 
         25       particular meeting was the external assessment,

 
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          1       that means a statewide assessment, given at
 
          2       intervals during a child's educational
 
          3       experience to see to it that the classroom, that
 
          4       the school, that the district, and that the
 
          5       state are all moving in the right directions as
 
          6       it relates to those standards and what they --
 
          7       what they take up.
 
          8            The other issue was technology.  We had an
 
          9       opportunity to visit a large number of brief
 
         10       presentations on some of the state of the art
 
         11       technology that exists out there.  And believe
 
         12       me, it's overwhelming as far as the capabilities
 
         13       that technology holds for us in the private
 
         14       sector, and especially in education.
 
         15            So with your indulgence, I'm just going to
 
         16       let you know what you have in front of you.
 
         17       You've been given a draft copy of some material,
 
         18       and I underscore the word draft.  Everything
 
         19       that you are going to see this morning is in
 
         20       draft form.  This is all for conceptual
 
         21       consideration today.
 
         22            But we wanted to give you an idea of where
 
         23       we are in the development of Florida's
 
         24       standards, which we have unofficially dubbed as
 
         25       the Sunshine State Standards; where we are with

 
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          1       the assessment process on the external level;
 
          2       and then as we'll discuss, on the internal
 
          3       level; and share with you some of the material
 
          4       in draft form that -- that we would be looking
 
          5       to utilize in the future.
 
          6            Now, if I can draw your attention to the
 
          7       power point presentation.  This is about what
 
          8       Florida's students should know and be able to
 
          9       do.  That is succinctly put.  That is, more or
 
         10       less, the mission of education is to determine
 
         11       what it is our youngsters should be able to know
 
         12       and do, and then see to it as they move through
 
         13       their educational experience that they can do
 
         14       those things.
 
         15            Again, we've dubbed these the
 
         16       Sunshine State Standards.  And I think the
 
         17       Governor can attest to the fact that if you put
 
         18       us on a scale with the 50 states, you have some
 
         19       states that have already established statewide
 
         20       standards; many states which have not yet begun
 
         21       the process of creating statewide standards; and
 
         22       then Florida, who is well along with the
 
         23       process, as we hope we'll evidence today.
 
         24            We're going to discuss moving toward
 
         25       high standards; we're going to talk about using

 
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          1       those standards, assessing those standards; and
 
          2       then very importantly, aligning those standards
 
          3       with the instruction, the curriculum, and then
 
          4       that assessment, both internal and external,
 
          5       that we discussed a moment ago.
 
          6            First of all, moving toward high standards.
 
          7            There is, as I mentioned, a national demand
 
          8       for greater accountability and higher
 
          9       standards.  I've said this regularly.  And I
 
         10       think many would agree that over the past
 
         11       30 years or so, the -- the nation and our state
 
         12       have succumbed to the national problem of every
 
         13       time youngsters don't give you what it is you
 
         14       expect, you simply lower the expectation.
 
         15       I think that's not an isolate here.
 
         16            I think the nation has looked at its
 
         17       expectations and what it's calling upon children
 
         18       to know and be able to do.  Our chief executive
 
         19       officers I think drove that home with a
 
         20       vengeance during the course of that
 
         21       day-and-a-half in Palisades, New York.
 
         22            So there is very much a national demand for
 
         23       all of us to elevate our standards and
 
         24       expectations for youngsters.  That's being taken
 
         25       up, of course, in part, in the legislative

 
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          1       process this year.
 
          2            It's a bipartisan effort.  I was very much
 
          3       appreciative of the fact that in Palisades, you
 
          4       had all types.  You had governors who
 
          5       represented some 44 states who were Republicans
 
          6       and Democrats; you had CEOs who were
 
          7       Republicans, Democrats, independents, and
 
          8       others; you had members of the educational
 
          9       communities from every different angle from
 
         10       which you could come.  And they all seemed to
 
         11       generally focus on the reality of the need for
 
         12       high standards, strong accountability.
 
         13            So very much where we have been coming from
 
         14       in this state is trying to do all of this as
 
         15       much as possible with a bipartisan effort,
 
         16       recognizing that teaching and learning is all
 
         17       about being bipartisan.
 
         18            Local control.  That was another initiative
 
         19       discussed in Palisades.  The fact that while the
 
         20       State should be in the business of setting
 
         21       standards, setting expectations, creating
 
         22       assessments, there's a strong need to give back
 
         23       to local schools and local districts and
 
         24       communities that which is rightfully theirs.
 
         25       And that's the opportunity to create curriculum,

 
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          1       strategies, methodologies, to select
 
          2       instructional material, right to meet the needs
 
          3       of the youngsters in their individual
 
          4       communities to make certain that they have the
 
          5       best opportunity possible to get to those high
 
          6       challenging standards in successful fashion.
 
          7            Focus on the Legislature.  You know that,
 
          8       as I mentioned, during this legislative session,
 
          9       very much, the whole issue of higher standards
 
         10       for graduation, higher expectations for
 
         11       students, and for the members of our
 
         12       professional community, have come up on a
 
         13       regular basis.  And again, in a bipartisan
 
         14       approach.
 
         15            We're seeing both chambers, both
 
         16       Republicans and Democrats, very, very much
 
         17       interested in increasing standards and
 
         18       expectations.  And that's being taken up during
 
         19       this session.
 
         20            And I alluded to the National Education
 
         21       Summit.  One of the things that was exemplified
 
         22       there is the fact that you can set high
 
         23       standards; you can raise your expectations, just
 
         24       as we're attempting to do here in the state of
 
         25       Florida.

 
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          1            But as we're going to discuss in a few
 
          2       minutes, critical to all of that is making
 
          3       certain that you have a system in place of staff
 
          4       development, both pre-service from the
 
          5       university level, and in-service for those who
 
          6       are currently in the field; on what those
 
          7       standards are; how the assessment process will
 
          8       work, internal, external; and how all of that is
 
          9       going to fold around the curriculum which will
 
         10       help to drive us to those high challenging
 
         11       standards.
 
         12            The equation for success, it's something
 
         13       that we've talked about on a regular basis in
 
         14       this state, and it was driven home again in
 
         15       Palisades, and that is strong standards at a
 
         16       high level; plus the instruction to get you to
 
         17       those high standards; plus an assessment.
 
         18            Again, not just given at the state level,
 
         19       but also the day-to-day assessment process that
 
         20       our teachers go through to constantly gauge
 
         21       where their students are at any given time, and
 
         22       adjust their teaching to make certain that their
 
         23       youngsters are moving toward those -- those
 
         24       standards, equals higher student achievement.
 
         25            And what we're trying to do in the state of

 
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          1       Florida right now is refocus our energy and
 
          2       refocus our efforts on increasing student
 
          3       achievement levels.
 
          4            The development of the standards.  First of
 
          5       all, let me say that these were not developed in
 
          6       a vacuum.  Far from it.  As most states found,
 
          7       the best way to develop standards is to involve
 
          8       all of the stakeholders in the process.  This
 
          9       process has been going on for almost two years.
 
         10       It's involved teachers and administrators and
 
         11       Board members.  It's involved parents at a
 
         12       significant rate.
 
         13            It's involved the business community to
 
         14       make certain that we were looking at the kinds
 
         15       of things the business community believed our
 
         16       youngsters should know and be able to do in the
 
         17       development of these standards.
 
         18            And so very much, it was a team approach
 
         19       with thousands of people, literally, supplying
 
         20       input as to what these standards should know --
 
         21       or should look like in their final analysis.
 
         22            Analyzed by national experts.  We used an
 
         23       organization called McREL, which again was
 
         24       widely discussed in Palisades.  And what they
 
         25       were able to do for us is to help us prior to

 
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          1       the development of this national clearinghouse,
 
          2       they helped us to make certain that our
 
          3       standards pass muster, that they were
 
          4       challenging, that they were rigorous, that they
 
          5       didn't take a backseat to any other state in the
 
          6       country in terms of what it was we expected our
 
          7       children to know and be able to do.  And that
 
          8       was very helpful in the process as well.
 
          9            And they were reviewed, as I mentioned,
 
         10       statewide by the stakeholders.  Teachers,
 
         11       parents, business leaders were involved in the
 
         12       creation of the standards that we are now
 
         13       developing.
 
         14            The focus was on the seven key subject
 
         15       areas.  Now, today before you, members of the
 
         16       State Board of Education, you actually have the
 
         17       language arts and the mathematic standards.
 
         18       Those are draft.  Again, I reiterate that.  And
 
         19       they are in draft form, but very much the way
 
         20       the standards will look when they are
 
         21       finalized.
 
         22            And those will all come back before you
 
         23       sometime in the month of May.  And at that time,
 
         24       they will include not only language arts and
 
         25       mathematics, but also science, social studies,

 
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          1       the arts, health and physical education, and
 
          2       foreign language.
 
          3            We also in the state of Florida have
 
          4       currently in place for grades 6 through 12
 
          5       course frameworks that -- and descriptors that
 
          6       actually go bullet by bullet explaining what a
 
          7       youngster should know and be able to do as they
 
          8       take individual courses, such as Algebra I, or
 
          9       chemistry, or advanced course work.
 
         10            And that is also going to be something
 
         11       we're going to have to look at and update
 
         12       regularly to make certain that it matches the
 
         13       standards that we are setting.
 
         14            But those are the broad-brush areas of
 
         15       focus upon which we're building our state
 
         16       standards.  And they are the same, for the most
 
         17       part, as you find in other states who are either
 
         18       further along, or at the same level as we.
 
         19            We actually divided our standards, as you
 
         20       can see in your background material, into four
 
         21       areas.  We divided them into pre-K through 2,
 
         22       grades 3 through 5, grades 6 through 8, and
 
         23       grades 9 through 12.
 
         24            And as you can see in your support
 
         25       material, we have tried to create the standards

 
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          1       as clearly and concisely as possible.  It is our
 
          2       full intent at a point appropriate in time, to
 
          3       condense this even further for distribution to
 
          4       all of our parents, the business community,
 
          5       et cetera, in the state of Florida so they will
 
          6       have in hand the ability to see if their child
 
          7       is in pre-K through 2, what that youngster
 
          8       should know and be able to do as they pass
 
          9       through that pre-K through 2 continuum.
 
         10            And we think that's important to
 
         11       communicate.  And we'll discuss communication
 
         12       here in a few minutes.
 
         13            Here's an example of a mathematic
 
         14       standard.  The -- the item is measurement.  And
 
         15       the standard would be:  The student measures
 
         16       quantities in the real world, and uses the
 
         17       measures to solve problems.
 
         18            Now, under that particular standard, you
 
         19       would have a number of bullet points that would
 
         20       help to make certain that students would have
 
         21       the total knowledge to be able to demonstrate
 
         22       mastery of that issue.  But that is a good
 
         23       example of a standard.  Something that we
 
         24       expect, at any level, by the way, a youngster to
 
         25       know and be able to do.

 
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          1            I say any level because we would expect a
 
          2       pre-K through 2 student to be able to
 
          3       demonstrate knowledge in that area, just as we
 
          4       would expect a high school senior to demonstrate
 
          5       knowledge in that particular area.  Remembering
 
          6       that, as we discussed at this meeting a month or
 
          7       so ago, even algebra has its roots at the
 
          8       kindergarten level.
 
          9            And as you look at the mathematic standards
 
         10       included in your packet, you will see algebra
 
         11       referred to, even at the kindergarten level,
 
         12       because that's the building blocks upon which
 
         13       all of the skills necessary to take and pass
 
         14       algebra begin.  And so all of these things have
 
         15       their roots from the very beginning in pre-K
 
         16       through second grade.
 
         17            Using the standards.  First of all, the
 
         18       standards will give us -- and that is the
 
         19       general us, all of us in education, and I think
 
         20       all of us in the state -- a clear expectation
 
         21       for student knowledge and skills.  In other
 
         22       words, this is what Florida expects, at the very
 
         23       least, our youngsters to know and be able to
 
         24       do.
 
         25            Now, I underscore at the very least.  The

 
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          1       state has once moved through the minimal skills
 
          2       route.  And believe me, for all of those who --
 
          3       who suggest that that was a bad thing, at least
 
          4       the minimal skills route did give us a target.
 
          5       Albeit, a low target, it gave us a place that we
 
          6       could direct our efforts in terms of teaching
 
          7       and learning.
 
          8            And as we move through the continuum of
 
          9       those minimal skills and that process, we found
 
         10       more and more youngsters able to produce at that
 
         11       minimal skill level and beyond.
 
         12            But what these standards are about is not
 
         13       minimal skills.  What we're suggesting, as are
 
         14       most states now, that if youngsters are going to
 
         15       be competitive in the 21st century, they simply
 
         16       have to achieve a higher level of academia to be
 
         17       successful in the world of work that they're
 
         18       going to find.
 
         19            We think the standards will give schools,
 
         20       districts, classroom teachers, a much clearer
 
         21       focus on the mission at hand.
 
         22            Basis for assessing student achievement.
 
         23       We're going to talk about this more.  But again,
 
         24       I suggest there are two types of assessment:
 
         25       That which would be applied externally by the

 
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          1       state of Florida in benchmark fashion to, as a
 
          2       benchmark, assess where students, schools, are
 
          3       at any given time, and the state.
 
          4            But also that internal assessment that our
 
          5       teachers must do, and have always done, on a
 
          6       day-to-day, week-to-week basis to gauge student
 
          7       learning at any given time.
 
          8            And again, the basis for school
 
          9       accountability.  Everyone continues to use the
 
         10       word accountability.  But I think we're much
 
         11       closer to a clear definition as to what this
 
         12       particular accountability is all about.  And
 
         13       remember, our primary focus, our primary
 
         14       mission, is on teaching and learning.
 
         15            Therefore, we need to create a strong
 
         16       accountability system to make certain that that
 
         17       learning is taking place at appropriate levels
 
         18       around the state, and we believe that the
 
         19       standards can provide the foundation for that, a
 
         20       clear mission, and the assessment in benchmark
 
         21       fashion and on the day-to-day basis can help us
 
         22       make certain that students are learning at the
 
         23       appropriate level.
 
         24            When it comes to assessment, we're talking,
 
         25       one, about the statewide assessment; and, two,

 
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          1       about the classroom assessment.  The statewide
 
          2       assessment has been RFPd.  The contract,
 
          3       of course, is under protest, so we hope to have
 
          4       that back to you in 30 to 45 days.
 
          5            But what we have done, and this is what the
 
          6       national trend is, as we found in Palisades, is
 
          7       to let a contract so that an external assessment
 
          8       is created for the state of Florida rather than
 
          9       do traditionally what we've done in the past,
 
         10       which is purchase an off-the-shelf version, and
 
         11       hope it matches up as closely as possible to the
 
         12       standards and the expectations that we have out
 
         13       there for our students.
 
         14            So once that test is constructed, it is
 
         15       going to provide for us, number one, a
 
         16       consistent measure of student achievement.  It
 
         17       will be applied once in elementary school, once
 
         18       in middle school, once in high school, and will
 
         19       give us a consistently applied year-to-year
 
         20       measure as to where our students are at any
 
         21       given time, in terms of teaching, learning, and
 
         22       the standards.
 
         23            It will support instruction because the
 
         24       whole idea of assessment is that assessment
 
         25       should determine the level of student learning,

 
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          1       what we expect our students to know and be able
 
          2       to do; and then reteach, if necessary, to see
 
          3       that they can do those kinds of things.
 
          4            So we think that the standards are going to
 
          5       help raise the level of instruction by providing
 
          6       for our teachers a much needed focus on the
 
          7       expectations that are at hand.
 
          8            Results support school improvement.  I've
 
          9       been in the school improvement business, as have
 
         10       many in this room, for a good number of years,
 
         11       and still maintain that the linchpin of school
 
         12       improvement needs to be teaching and learning.
 
         13       That all of the strategies, all of the joint
 
         14       efforts that go into those school improvement
 
         15       plans need to center and focus ultimately on how
 
         16       students are going to learn more as a result of
 
         17       those activities.
 
         18            And we believe that this can be the long
 
         19       awaited linchpin for our school improvement
 
         20       efforts which are sweeping the state as we know.
 
         21            Recognize success.  We also believe very
 
         22       important is -- and we heard this in Palisades
 
         23       reiterated -- that as time progresses with this
 
         24       entire system, one of the things that we very
 
         25       much need to do is also recognize those who are

 
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          1       taking the bold steps to increase student
 
          2       achievement levels.  We do much nationally
 
          3       with -- with sanctions and actions.  Some of
 
          4       that is appropriate.
 
          5            We also need to recognize and reward people
 
          6       for their efforts.  The Governor and I heard one
 
          7       presentation where a state was talking about
 
          8       actually rewarding monetarily schools who met
 
          9       certain benchmarks that were agreed upon at the
 
         10       beginning of the school year, based off of their
 
         11       accountability system.
 
         12            And that money would actually go to the
 
         13       school to be used by the school to do differing
 
         14       things.  And it actually gave people an
 
         15       incentive.
 
         16            There are other states that actually give
 
         17       the people in the school, the staff members of
 
         18       the school, individual stipends for meeting
 
         19       certain goals.  Very much like the private
 
         20       sector.
 
         21            And so we also need to not only identify
 
         22       monetary rewards, but also recognitions for
 
         23       people who go above and beyond, and increase
 
         24       these student achievement levels.
 
         25            I also mentioned classroom assessment.

 
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          1       This is, again, the day-to-day assessment that
 
          2       our teachers do, which are done in a variety of
 
          3       ways today.  There are 2900 schools, and I would
 
          4       submit that in the vast majority of those
 
          5       schools, the assessment process is done a little
 
          6       bit differently.
 
          7            I went through a college of education, and
 
          8       at the risk of sounding like a college of
 
          9       education basher would tell you, that generally
 
         10       speaking, our colleges of education need to do a
 
         11       much better job of teaching teachers how to
 
         12       assess student learning, to see to it that when
 
         13       they come out of those colleges of education,
 
         14       they've got the tools necessary to gauge where
 
         15       their students are at any given time.
 
         16            And, remember, that assessment is not
 
         17       simply a culminating activity.  It's an activity
 
         18       that's supposed to determine what your students
 
         19       are learning, and how best to go about learning
 
         20       it in the future.
 
         21            And we're also going to be discussing here
 
         22       some staff development efforts that this state
 
         23       will be engaged in to help every teacher in the
 
         24       state of Florida, every administrator in the
 
         25       state of Florida, better understand assessments

 
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          1       on a day-to-day basis, and better understand how
 
          2       to craft consistently applied assessments within
 
          3       their schools and within their districts.
 
          4            The statewide assessment.  We're calling it
 
          5       FCAT for now.  That's Florida Comprehensive
 
          6       Achievement Test.  It is state designed.  Again,
 
          7       it went out with very rigorous specifications.
 
          8       We knew what we wanted.  It's a test that not --
 
          9       will only -- will not only ask students to color
 
         10       in bubbles, as we have in the past -- that's
 
         11       still an appropriate testing methodology -- but
 
         12       it's also going to ask students to answer
 
         13       questions, to write to prove they can with the
 
         14       Florida Writes, as we continue that program.  To
 
         15       demonstrate reading comprehension by writing to
 
         16       prove that they've comprehended what they've
 
         17       read, to calculate mathematically to prove that
 
         18       they know how to calculate mathematically, so on
 
         19       and so forth.
 
         20            So it is a combination of norm referenced
 
         21       and criterion referenced methodology that should
 
         22       give us a much more accurate picture of not only
 
         23       what students know, but what they're able to
 
         24       do.  And that's something that our business and
 
         25       industry community feels very, very strongly

 
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          1       about.
 
          2            Measure first four standards of Goal 3.
 
          3       Succinctly put:  That's reading, writing,
 
          4       arithmetic, and critical thinking skills.  The
 
          5       first three are self-explanatory.
 
          6            The business and industry community also
 
          7       now suggest to us, and we know this as
 
          8       educators, that a student's ability to think
 
          9       critically is absolutely essential in the
 
         10       21st century.
 
         11            That being able to read, to write, and
 
         12       calculate mathematically are good tools.  But
 
         13       those tools have to be wrapped around the
 
         14       ability to think, to solve problems in the real
 
         15       world.  And that's very much where we're headed
 
         16       with our standards and with the assessment that
 
         17       we are creating for the state of Florida.
 
         18            Reading and mathematics, critical thinking
 
         19       we've discussed.  Students select a response or
 
         20       perform a task.  Again, we've talked about
 
         21       that.  Under our current Florida Writes Program,
 
         22       which will continue as a part of this entire
 
         23       package, we are, again, going to ask students to
 
         24       be able to write to prove they can, calculate to
 
         25       prove they can, et cetera.

 
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          1            Florida Writes will continue, as I've
 
          2       said.  The high school competency test will
 
          3       continue for the time.  That is the test given
 
          4       beginning at the 10th grade level that a student
 
          5       may take and retake until final graduation, and
 
          6       must pass before high school graduation.
 
          7            We talked about this at the Accountability
 
          8       Commission level.  It is our full intent that
 
          9       once the test is in place, on-line, a baseline
 
         10       of data created, that we would like to replace
 
         11       the high school competency test with the new
 
         12       statewide assessment test at the 10th grade
 
         13       level.  More challenging, more rigorous, and
 
         14       still give students the opportunity once it
 
         15       becomes a high stakes test to pass it prior to
 
         16       12th grade when it has to be taken into
 
         17       consideration for a diploma in the state of
 
         18       Florida.
 
         19            The classroom assessment.  This is the
 
         20       day-to-day assessment that we discussed.  What
 
         21       we are going to do from the state level is a
 
         22       massive amount of staff development.  We'll be
 
         23       talking about the staff development more
 
         24       specifically in a moment.
 
         25            But what we very much want to do is work

 
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          1       with all of the educators in the state of
 
          2       Florida to see to it that every classroom
 
          3       teacher has a better understanding of how to
 
          4       assess students on a day-to-day basis, how to
 
          5       assess students on a day-to-day basis so that it
 
          6       matched -- matches up with the statewide test.
 
          7            But most importantly, so that they can
 
          8       assess student learning as it relates to those
 
          9       state standards that we believe are essential
 
         10       for all students to have before they leave
 
         11       12th grade.
 
         12            So we're going to be developing some models
 
         13       that we'll be sharing with districts on how to
 
         14       do day-to-day assessment within the classroom,
 
         15       consistently applied.  We're going to be doing a
 
         16       massive amount of training on what assessment
 
         17       methodologies exist nationally, or -- or around
 
         18       the world that are performance based so that
 
         19       people again, even in their classrooms, are not
 
         20       just asking students to color in bubbles, but
 
         21       are regularly asking students to read and to
 
         22       write and to calculate mathematically, and then
 
         23       have the skills and the tools necessary to be
 
         24       able to grade that work appropriately, and see
 
         25       to it that if reteaching is necessary, it can be

 
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          1       done.
 
          2            And again, our educators on a day-to-day
 
          3       basis do a great job with assessment.  But we
 
          4       believe that much more needs to be done as we
 
          5       approach the 21st century.  And that's one of
 
          6       our -- should be one of our responsibilities at
 
          7       the state level, is to try to help inculcate
 
          8       that into the entire system.
 
          9            The staff development piece that we talked
 
         10       about -- and I believe you have that packet in
 
         11       front of you -- if not, it's on the left-hand
 
         12       side.  It's another draft copy.
 
         13            But what it does is discuss some of our
 
         14       intent as far as where we need to move with
 
         15       staff development.  You cannot create standards,
 
         16       you cannot put in place a new external
 
         17       assessment, expect new assessments to take place
 
         18       consistently applied internally, unless you do
 
         19       the kinds of staff development that we believe
 
         20       we need to begin virtually immediately.
 
         21            We have calculated all in all that in this
 
         22       year's proposed budget, if you take all of the
 
         23       staff development dollars that exist in the
 
         24       state of Florida, those that come at the state
 
         25       level, those that come in the federal level,

 
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          1       those that come through the FTE generation, the
 
          2       technology, there is the availability -- or we
 
          3       hope will be the availability, if our budget is
 
          4       passed, or something that's a reasonable
 
          5       facsimile thereof -- of almost 43 million
 
          6       dollars, which is earmarked for staff
 
          7       development activities.
 
          8            Now, I will tell you candidly, that in the
 
          9       past, those staff development dollars have been
 
         10       used in a shotgun approach.  We have been, in
 
         11       education, all over the map with staff
 
         12       development activities.  Much of that is not
 
         13       bad.
 
         14            But what we believe is, as we work with
 
         15       these standards; the new assessments, internal
 
         16       and external; the kinds of training that we need
 
         17       to do; the residual that this standard and
 
         18       assessment process will also have is to give us
 
         19       the opportunity as a state to once again focus
 
         20       those staff development dollars on teaching and
 
         21       learning.  Since that should be the primary
 
         22       focus of the public education system.
 
         23            So what we're going to do is work to
 
         24       harness as a state those 43 million dollars.
 
         25       Whether they're provided to the local district

 
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          1       through FTE, whether they are state driven
 
          2       dollars, create a system within the
 
          3       state of Florida that will allow once again
 
          4       people to focus their dollars in staff
 
          5       development on the business of teaching and
 
          6       learning and assessment strategies, and
 
          7       incorporating those state standards into their
 
          8       curriculum.
 
          9            That's going to be an incredibly important
 
         10       activity that unfolds over the next two years or
 
         11       so, as well.
 
         12            Once the standards are out there, people
 
         13       then have an enormous task.  They must
 
         14       incorporate those standards into their everyday
 
         15       curriculum, which in many places may mean
 
         16       rewriting curriculum or changing curriculum,
 
         17       selecting new instructional materials, and we
 
         18       recognize that.
 
         19            And we're going to begin that process this
 
         20       year, carry it on through to the next year, and
 
         21       we'll talk about the time line here in just a
 
         22       minute.
 
         23            But I cannot emphasize enough how it is our
 
         24       intent to once again refocus our staff
 
         25       development efforts and our staff development

 
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          1       dollars on teaching and learning.
 
          2            We would like to create six regional sites
 
          3       around the state of Florida that will actually
 
          4       be the hub of staff development so that there is
 
          5       availability of training trainers right there in
 
          6       each of those six regions.
 
          7            And we also are creating right now, and
 
          8       I think your Cabinet aides have seen first cut,
 
          9       of some of the new technology training that we
 
         10       are developing at the department.  This first
 
         11       cut was for the Florida Writes Program, and it
 
         12       would allow us, through CD capabilities, to be
 
         13       able to see every teacher and every
 
         14       administrator, and even our parents and students
 
         15       in the state of Florida, to walk through a
 
         16       technology driven program on the Florida Writes
 
         17       test to see how one creates samples, what sorts
 
         18       of scores are given to that Florida Writes test,
 
         19       and how they can do comparable sorts of
 
         20       preassessment in their own schools, their own
 
         21       classrooms, and their own districts, to ready
 
         22       students to be able to write at that level.
 
         23            And that would begin as early as teachers
 
         24       begin teaching them.  From the day they walk
 
         25       in.

 
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          1            We will then be developing the same kind of
 
          2       program for the seven areas that you saw up
 
          3       here.  And anywhere that we believe that
 
          4       technology will be a better delivery system than
 
          5       the old mouth to mouth that we used in the past
 
          6       for staff development, we want to try to help
 
          7       the state provide just that.  We believe that
 
          8       staff development is a critical piece to all of
 
          9       this.
 
         10            Aligning standards, instruction, and
 
         11       assessment.  Again, a vital link in all of
 
         12       this.  If you have standards here, assessment
 
         13       here, curriculum here, and it is not integrated,
 
         14       then you have pieces in isolate.  I think we've
 
         15       been the isolate route in this state in many
 
         16       places for too long.
 
         17            What we envision is the fact that the
 
         18       standards can be aligned with the day-to-day
 
         19       curriculum utilized in our schools, the
 
         20       instruction and teaching strategies that we want
 
         21       to work on through the staff development process
 
         22       and districts currently work through with staff
 
         23       development, again, refocusing our efforts.  And
 
         24       also the assessment.
 
         25            All of these need to be aligned in a

 
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          1       package.  Simply put, students need to know and
 
          2       be able to do the following things:  The
 
          3       assessment should gauge their ability to know
 
          4       and do the following things.  The curriculum,
 
          5       which is the essential component, and the
 
          6       teaching strategies should make certain that
 
          7       those students are able to know those things and
 
          8       can demonstrate them, either on a day-to-day
 
          9       basis, internal assessment; or on that external
 
         10       assessment applied in elementary, middle school,
 
         11       and high school, one time each.
 
         12            (Commissioner Crawford exited the room.)
 
         13            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  The area centers, we
 
         14       talked about, and locally determined solutions.
 
         15       Again, this is very much a locally controlled
 
         16       issue.  While it may sound while I'm standing
 
         17       here, state driven, I think our job at the state
 
         18       level as State Board of Education is to set the
 
         19       standards, set the expectation, create the
 
         20       statewide applied assessment.
 
         21            But then, if you will pardon -- pardon the
 
         22       way I say this, get out of their way.  And that
 
         23       is very much what we've also asked the Florida
 
         24       Legislature to do this year with our
 
         25       deregulation package.

 
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          1            If we're going to hold people accountable
 
          2       to high standards, high expectations, then it is
 
          3       important that we allow them the flexibility to
 
          4       create curriculum, activities, opportunities,
 
          5       program, select instructional materials, employ
 
          6       teaching strategies that they believe will get
 
          7       the students in their charge to those
 
          8       challenging standards in their appropriate
 
          9       fashion.  And that's an important part of all of
 
         10       this.
 
         11            And, by the way, that was very much the
 
         12       overall theme, I think, that came out of
 
         13       Palisades, New York, as well.
 
         14            Staff development we've talked about.
 
         15       There's much more to say on that issue, but
 
         16       that's it for now.
 
         17            Area centers, we talked about creating
 
         18       those regional centers.  We have sent out
 
         19       somewhat of an RFP where we're asking people
 
         20       around the state of Florida to look at what it
 
         21       is we're expecting in terms of staff
 
         22       development, and we're asking them to reply,
 
         23       whether it's a community college, whether it's a
 
         24       college, whether a private firm says we can
 
         25       provide that training for you.  Whatever it

 
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          1       happens to be, we want people to respond, see
 
          2       what kinds of training it is we expect, who we
 
          3       would like to see trained, and then tell us what
 
          4       they're going to be able to do for our
 
          5       professional educators in the state of Florida
 
          6       in terms of supplying that level of training.
 
          7            Again, we would involve the colleges and
 
          8       universities, not just at the pre-service
 
          9       level.  We think the colleges and universities,
 
         10       community colleges and universities, have an
 
         11       absolute stake in the success of all of this.
 
         12            We long have talked about the remediation
 
         13       rate at the community college and college
 
         14       level.  We believe that not only the initial
 
         15       training, but the retraining of professional
 
         16       educators should involve those same
 
         17       institutions.  And we believe that they need to
 
         18       get involved in all of this as well.
 
         19            By the way, the reception thus far on the
 
         20       parts of the deans and the presidents has been
 
         21       outstanding.  I'm going to do a similar
 
         22       presentation to the community college board and
 
         23       the Board of Regents coming up.  But both have
 
         24       already acknowledged the need and stand willing,
 
         25       I think, to work with us on pre-service and

 
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          1       in-service.
 
          2            Technology we discussed.  You can't say
 
          3       enough about it.  It is, as we heard in
 
          4       Palisades, going to -- or should revolutionize
 
          5       teaching and learning.  You will always need
 
          6       teachers.  But what we recognize is that --
 
          7            (Commissioner Crawford entered the room.)
 
          8            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- with instructional
 
          9       materials, with printed text, teachers are also
 
         10       going to need the new technology that's
 
         11       available.
 
         12            Not only to provide direct instruction, but
 
         13       also to manage the instruction that's out there,
 
         14       so we can very much gauge where any individual
 
         15       student is at any given time, so that we have a
 
         16       clear understanding in classrooms as to what our
 
         17       children can know and do on a daily basis,
 
         18       versus a nine-week basis, so we can remediate
 
         19       then, instead of the end.
 
         20            Develop quality assurance.  It's very
 
         21       important.  Someone asked me -- I think from the
 
         22       press not too long ago -- we did something
 
         23       similar to this with curriculum frameworks a
 
         24       long time ago.  As a matter of fact, I was a
 
         25       classroom teacher and helped to work on some of

 
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          1       the curriculum frameworks.
 
          2            People asked what happened to them?  Well,
 
          3       they're still there.  But I think very important
 
          4       is, there was never an urgency in this state,
 
          5       because we didn't have standards from with which
 
          6       to create focus.  The frameworks pretty much
 
          7       were utilized at the secondary level, but may or
 
          8       may not be utilized to the total degree that we
 
          9       think are important.
 
         10            And I think that one of the issues was, we
 
         11       never really developed a quality assurance
 
         12       process.  We talked about this with the
 
         13       Accountability Commission, creating a process
 
         14       where the state of Florida can review what is
 
         15       happening in the schools around the state to
 
         16       make certain that the standards are incorporated
 
         17       in the curriculum, make certain that new
 
         18       developing technology is used, make certain
 
         19       that -- that the new teaching strategies with
 
         20       assessments are being developed; and if more is
 
         21       needed, requested.
 
         22            And so we will also be developing a quality
 
         23       assurance plan that will help us to be able to
 
         24       go around the state and help people gauge where
 
         25       they are at any given time.

 
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          1            People think of these as audits.  What we
 
          2       think of these as is moving into a district, and
 
          3       looking at where they are, and then more
 
          4       importantly, asking them where they would like
 
          5       to be and how the state and the district can
 
          6       help them to get there, on teaching, on
 
          7       learning, on assessments, on all of these
 
          8       activities.
 
          9            What are the next steps?  First of all, we
 
         10       hope to bring back before you in May the
 
         11       contract for the FCAT development, which is
 
         12       again that external assessment that will be
 
         13       created over time.  We'll talk about that
 
         14       time line in just a moment.  And very much in
 
         15       keeping with what --
 
         16            (Secretary Mortham exited the room.)
 
         17            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- most states are
 
         18       doing as far as developing their external
 
         19       assessments.  We are right now looking at the
 
         20       grade levels, and it appears as though once in
 
         21       10th, once in 8th, the elementary teachers --
 
         22       and I had a meeting with 50 of the 67 teachers
 
         23       of the year in Tampa not too long ago.
 
         24            They came up with a great recommendation
 
         25       that we're looking at at the elementary level,

 
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          1       and that's not to test at elementary all in one
 
          2       grade level.  That is to test reading and
 
          3       writing in 4th grade, and mathematics at
 
          4       5th grade.  That it's not absolutely essential
 
          5       that you do it all in one sitting.  And it's
 
          6       also a good indicator to involve two different
 
          7       grade levels, it also doesn't put the entire
 
          8       onus at the elementary school level on that
 
          9       major a test being given at just one grade
 
         10       level.  So that's something we're looking at
 
         11       right now as well.
 
         12            The communication is critical.  We have to
 
         13       communicate with, and again, actively have
 
         14       participate, the people you see there:
 
         15       Educators, parents, and then other
 
         16       stakeholders.
 
         17            It is vital that as we used and -- and
 
         18       tapped the services and the talents of people
 
         19       all over the state to get where we are, that we
 
         20       now need to begin the communication process to
 
         21       the entire state as to where we hope to be over
 
         22       the next several years; and most importantly,
 
         23       how it is we hope to get there; and then utilize
 
         24       those stakeholders in further developing our
 
         25       staff development opportunities, further

 
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          1       developing many of the issues that still remain
 
          2       out there.  And we've got to involve those
 
          3       people.  And we're developing the plans as to
 
          4       how we would communicate those kinds of things
 
          5       even now.
 
          6            I already alluded to the fact that very
 
          7       important to me, and I think you, as State Board
 
          8       members, is communicating with those mothers and
 
          9       fathers.  Actually putting in their hand, as
 
         10       some states have, in easy to read, easy to
 
         11       understand fashion, what those standards are.
 
         12       So mom and dad can see.
 
         13            If their child is in elementary, middle, or
 
         14       high, at any given time, what the
 
         15       state of Florida really believes is important
 
         16       for that youngster to know and be able to do.
 
         17            We think that'll also help the level of
 
         18       parental involvement by truly making them a
 
         19       stakeholder in the day-to-day learning that goes
 
         20       on in our schools and the teaching thereof.
 
         21            (Secretary Mortham entered the room.)
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  We also want to
 
         23       involve as a stakeholder -- continue to involve,
 
         24       the business community.  They were a vital link
 
         25       in what happened in Palisades.

 
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          1            They are crying for educational reform.
 
          2       They believe that strong standards are
 
          3       necessary, they believe that strong
 
          4       accountability is vital, and they absolutely
 
          5       seem committed to the fact in this state,
 
          6       through the Council of 100,
 
          7       Associated Industries, Chamber of Commerce, and
 
          8       groups that I haven't named, committed to trying
 
          9       to help education and educators do the enormous
 
         10       job of seeing to it that children can achieve
 
         11       those standards.
 
         12            They are the recipients of our product.
 
         13       They are the people who will engage these
 
         14       youngsters at some point in the world of work.
 
         15            Continual improvement.  This process, the
 
         16       reason I have asked this to be put there is, I
 
         17       want you to understand something very
 
         18       important.  This is a living process.
 
         19            At no time should we as a state be able to
 
         20       say, there, it's finished.  We are constantly
 
         21       going to need to look at the standards.  Once
 
         22       they are ultimately approved on a regular basis,
 
         23       to make certain that they stay challenging and
 
         24       rigorous, and based on what our children can
 
         25       know and be able to do.  It's important that we

 
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          1       constantly look at that assessment system to
 
          2       make certain that it's right for the state of
 
          3       Florida.
 
          4            One idea that I took away from Palisades
 
          5       was, there's constantly the question about --
 
          6       some of the questions that are asked on programs
 
          7       like Florida Writes, some people might feel that
 
          8       the question isn't appropriate or it's too
 
          9       vague.
 
         10            And what another state does -- that I very
 
         11       much am interested in, they annually put
 
         12       together a team of people:  Teachers, business
 
         13       people, parents, et cetera, to review the
 
         14       questions that are going to be asked in that
 
         15       given year.  And if they find one that's
 
         16       controversial, they agree to throw it out; if
 
         17       they find one that's vague, they agree to throw
 
         18       it out, or make it less vague.
 
         19            So you constantly have to involve the
 
         20       stakeholders in this process.  This entire
 
         21       process will constantly be up for review.
 
         22            Staff development never ends.  Please don't
 
         23       get the idea that the plan we're developing has
 
         24       a beginning and an ending.  It is an ongoing
 
         25       process that will constantly need to be updated,

 
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          1       revamped and revitalized to see to it it's
 
          2       always on the cutting edge of what our teachers
 
          3       and our administrators and our parents need in
 
          4       order to do the job that we're asking them to
 
          5       do.
 
          6            The student standards themselves, I alluded
 
          7       to that.  These are the standards that
 
          8       ultimately we will ask you to approve coming in
 
          9       the month of May.
 
         10            But recognize, you are the State Board of
 
         11       Education, and we will be bringing those
 
         12       standards back to you if at any point we feel as
 
         13       though they need to be upgraded, or they need to
 
         14       be changed or altered in the future.
 
         15            The time line.  95-96.  We're in the middle
 
         16       of -- or near the end, actually, of the
 
         17       development of standards, assessment, and staff
 
         18       development.
 
         19            Development of standards.  We again in the
 
         20       month of May hope that we can have not only the
 
         21       final version of the math and language arts that
 
         22       you have before you today, but all of those
 
         23       other seven subject areas for your review during
 
         24       that month of May.  And we're finishing those
 
         25       and working on those even as we speak.

 
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          1            The actual training will begin virtually
 
          2       immediately.  We desperately need to get on with
 
          3       the business of staff development.  As I've
 
          4       suggested, we've already sent out the initial
 
          5       RFP to start to get some responses from out
 
          6       there in the state as to what people think they
 
          7       can do for us in terms of our need for staff
 
          8       development.
 
          9            The FCAT itself, we would like to be in a
 
         10       position to be able to finalize the external
 
         11       assessment -- the one we'll give once in
 
         12       elementary, once in middle, once in high --
 
         13       field test that during next year.
 
         14            Now, the field test is simply a process
 
         15       issue.  To gauge level of questions, to get
 
         16       feedback from the participants, as to how the
 
         17       questions were asked, what the responses to --
 
         18       look like, were there any problems with the
 
         19       process.
 
         20            The following year is 97-98.  That's where
 
         21       we would intend to fully administer for the
 
         22       first time the FCAT to all students in those
 
         23       grades appropriate:  Elementary, middle school,
 
         24       and high school.  That would be for purposes of
 
         25       identifying a baseline of data.

 
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          1            Any time you're going to use a test of this
 
          2       significance, you need to first make certain
 
          3       that you develop that baseline of data.  This
 
          4       would also give us two full years of staff
 
          5       development, of curriculum integration, of
 
          6       teaching strategies, whatever it happens to be.
 
          7       And teachers would know that in 97-98, we would
 
          8       be administering that test to gather a baseline
 
          9       of data that we could use in future
 
         10       administrations.
 
         11            And then by 88-89, the test would be
 
         12       administered.  So you know, currently we have
 
         13       on -- in law, the standardized testing for the
 
         14       appropriate grades today.  We would not want to
 
         15       change those until this test is ready to be put
 
         16       in its place in its entirety.
 
         17            Currently there are seven different
 
         18       standardized tests being given in the state of
 
         19       Florida, and we have three grades that are
 
         20       required to report their results to the
 
         21       state of Florida.
 
         22            Those are the tests that we currently use
 
         23       to identify critically low performing schools.
 
         24       We will continue to use that testing methodology
 
         25       until this test is ready for full implementation

 
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          1       in the state of Florida, and that's an important
 
          2       issue.
 
          3            That is the time line that we would hope
 
          4       for.  It is an ambitious time line, there's no
 
          5       doubt about that.
 
          6            But let me tell you, the good news is is
 
          7       that we are behind a few states, we are far
 
          8       ahead of the most -- of most of the states in
 
          9       the state of Florida.
 
         10            People who are looking to begin this
 
         11       process, as it was discussed in Palisades, are
 
         12       really looking, as President Clinton called for,
 
         13       for a two-year journey to get where some states
 
         14       already are, and I think where this state is
 
         15       about to be.
 
         16            We have also, I think, in this state gone a
 
         17       little further than some states, in that we
 
         18       currently have the school improvement process
 
         19       already in our school system.  We already have
 
         20       stakeholder involvement more than many other
 
         21       states via that process.
 
         22            We've established our state goals.  We've
 
         23       established and are establishing the other
 
         24       expectations that go along with readiness to
 
         25       start school, and with those other goal areas

 
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          1       that are not listed up here.  We will have
 
          2       identifiable expectations for schools and
 
          3       districts on all of the goals in the state of
 
          4       Florida.
 
          5            So we are very close to putting together a
 
          6       total package of classroom, of school, of
 
          7       stakeholder, and of statewide involvement to see
 
          8       to it clearly that our youngsters are able to
 
          9       know and do the kinds of things that they have
 
         10       to do in the 21st century to be successful.
 
         11            You've seen this before.  This is not a
 
         12       commercial message.  It's simply that it seems
 
         13       as though every time in the state you try to
 
         14       explain one piece of the educational pie, people
 
         15       hear about that and think that's the only thing
 
         16       that you're discussing, and, therefore, think
 
         17       it's being discussed in an -- as an isolate.
 
         18            All of these pieces of the pie we think are
 
         19       absolutely critical to changing for the better
 
         20       all that we do in public education.  We do so
 
         21       many things so very well.  And we think with
 
         22       these kinds of changes, we can increase student
 
         23       learning, we can increase student achievement.
 
         24            We think, if you give parents more choices,
 
         25       as is being -- are being discussed upstairs

 
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          1       today, as you give much more local control.  And
 
          2       while I appreciate the waiver process, I have
 
          3       been a long believer that a waiver is a:  Mother
 
          4       May I.
 
          5            If something is shaky enough that you would
 
          6       allow someone not to do it, then you need to get
 
          7       rid of it and allow people to do it as they see
 
          8       appropriate, and that's the accountab-- or the
 
          9       deregulation package we have being taken up
 
         10       upstairs.
 
         11            Safe schools and discipline.  While that
 
         12       sounds like a by-product, all of the things that
 
         13       we've talked about become very difficult, if not
 
         14       impossible, if schools are unsafe and
 
         15       undisciplined for children and for teachers.
 
         16            Professionalization reform.  You're going
 
         17       to be hearing a lot more about some of these
 
         18       issues in the months to come.  But we need, as
 
         19       we approach the 21st century, to take a serious
 
         20       look at the professional educational community,
 
         21       to make certain that what we ask of our
 
         22       professional educators, and what we ask in
 
         23       return, is appropriate to meet the needs of the
 
         24       21st century.
 
         25            You can't reform education, unless you look

 
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          1       at that incredibly important component, which is
 
          2       the professional educational community.
 
          3            The funding issues being discussed
 
          4       upstairs.  Part of that is the Florida Lottery,
 
          5       of course; the utilization of technology; the
 
          6       lifelong learning issue.  And some people get
 
          7       the stereotypical idea that that means dealing
 
          8       with senior citizens.  This means --
 
          9            (Governor Chiles exited the room.)
 
         10            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- dealing with
 
         11       youngsters from the day they walk into their
 
         12       first classroom to the day they exit their last
 
         13       classroom.  Trying to create a better union
 
         14       between pre-K through 12, community colleges,
 
         15       state universities, vocational technical
 
         16       schools, to see to it that there's an
 
         17       educational opportunity out there for every
 
         18       citizen of the state of Florida that's right to
 
         19       meet their needs.
 
         20            Work force development is something else
 
         21       we're working on right now to try to put all the
 
         22       players at the table, to see to it that training
 
         23       and retraining opportunities exist out there for
 
         24       the citizens of the state of Florida.
 
         25            The involvement of the business and

 
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          1       industry community we've talked about already.
 
          2       It is absolutely essential, and I don't mean
 
          3       that to pay lip service.  I'm going to tell you
 
          4       this:  I don't think we can do this without the
 
          5       business and industry community acting as
 
          6       partners in the 21st century.
 
          7            Takes us back to accountability and high
 
          8       standards.  And we believe that once we finally
 
          9       create a focal point of high standards; high
 
         10       expectations; create that external assessment,
 
         11       as well as deal with the day-to-day assessment
 
         12       process in our teaching strategies, we think
 
         13       that there's no reason that that can't provide
 
         14       the linchpin to what all the other changes can
 
         15       hopefully provide for all of us in public
 
         16       education; and most importantly, make certain
 
         17       that our youngsters take a backseat to no one in
 
         18       the 21st century when they're trying to crack a
 
         19       good quality of life for themself and their
 
         20       family.
 
         21            I underscore again, and then we'll end,
 
         22       that all of the material you have is in draft
 
         23       form.  We're bringing this to you for
 
         24       information today.  But we very much wanted to
 
         25       see -- wanted you to see, especially on the

 
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          1       heels of the national summit, where the
 
          2       state of Florida is in relationship to what we
 
          3       believe are some critical items that we've got
 
          4       to take up for the 21st century.
 
          5            So with that, I think I've covered
 
          6       everything that I need to cover, and would be
 
          7       glad to try to entertain any questions that you
 
          8       all have.
 
          9            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Commissioner Nelson.
 
         10            TREASURER NELSON:  Frank, I want to commend
 
         11       you for this.  I think you're headed -- we are
 
         12       headed in the right direction.
 
         13            I particularly want to commend you for this
 
         14       little brochure.  This is brief, it's to the
 
         15       point, it's clear, and it says what this whole
 
         16       process about this State Standards is.
 
         17            Now, could you repeat for me, please, about
 
         18       the teacher training?  You said that there's
 
         19       41 million in your budget with regard to that?
 
         20            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  All total,
 
         21       Commissioner, and let me break it out for you.
 
         22       We've got federal dollars, we call it direct
 
         23       impact dollars requested.  That's educational --
 
         24            (Governor Chiles entered the room.)
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  -- enhancement

 
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          1       centers; teacher assessment training; Title VI
 
          2       money, which is federal money for math and
 
          3       science, performance assessment system for
 
          4       students with disabilities.
 
          5            Because, remember, when you create an
 
          6       assessment system like this, you have to
 
          7       remember that you're also going to be testing
 
          8       students with disabilities.  That's one chunk.
 
          9       That's four million seven hundred and ninety
 
         10       thousand.
 
         11            Another chunk is two million six hundred
 
         12       and forty thousand, and that's for Academies for
 
         13       Excellence in Teaching, Florida League of
 
         14       Teachers, Education Reform Training, School
 
         15       Community Professional Development Systems.
 
         16            And then we also have 30 percent of our
 
         17       technology money that is earmarked for staff
 
         18       development and training.  And that should come,
 
         19       based on what we've requested, to about
 
         20       21 million dollars in our revised budget, as
 
         21       well as the $6 per FTE in the state of Florida,
 
         22       which is required to be dedicated to staff
 
         23       development.  That is another thirty-six million
 
         24       dollars.
 
         25            And if Goals 2000 money is still available,

 
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          1       it is our intent to request Goals 2000 money to
 
          2       help augment staff development activities around
 
          3       the state of Florida, specifically on the issues
 
          4       of teaching and learning.
 
          5            So that comes to a total of 43 million
 
          6       dollars, Commissioner.
 
          7            TREASURER NELSON:  Well, that's good.
 
          8       You no doubt have been seeing the spate of
 
          9       recent articles nationally about our concern
 
         10       about technology, which you've heard me repeat
 
         11       over and over.
 
         12            And -- and the fact is that they're getting
 
         13       computers into the classrooms, but it's not
 
         14       doing any good, because the teachers aren't
 
         15       being trained to teach the students to use the
 
         16       newer technology.
 
         17            And so, you know, it's -- it's -- there's
 
         18       an analogy -- a parallel here that's very clear
 
         19       that with all of these standards, you've got to
 
         20       be able to get that trained teacher in there so
 
         21       that they can apply these --
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yes, sir.
 
         23            TREASURER NELSON:  -- standards.
 
         24            Thanks.
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yes, sir.

 
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          1            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Governor --
 
          2            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Yes, ma'am.
 
          3            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  -- I'd, too, like to
 
          4       compliment Commissioner Brogan and -- and the
 
          5       entire staff.  I think they've done a wonderful
 
          6       job of putting this all together, easily
 
          7       understood.
 
          8            The thing that was most exciting to me was
 
          9       on your mathematics component, particularly
 
         10       grades 9 through 12, the words:  And used in the
 
         11       real world was used more than once.  And I think
 
         12       that from my vantage point, that's real
 
         13       important.  I think the thing that we've missed
 
         14       is the component of relating to the real world
 
         15       for students throughout the process.
 
         16            And my only question is is that if,
 
         17       in fact, a student graduated with this entire
 
         18       packet being completed, we can safely assume
 
         19       then that there will be no need for remediation
 
         20       at the -- at the college level.  I'm sure that
 
         21       the answer to that is --
 
         22            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Oh.
 
         23            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Yes.
 
         24            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yes, ma'am.
 
         25            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  But have -- but are we

 
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          1       sure that the colleges -- we're all mixing this
 
          2       together so that the colleges also know that
 
          3       when this is finished --
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Yes, Secretary.  We
 
          5       actually involved community college and
 
          6       university people in the creation of these.
 
          7            We also utilized the business standards
 
          8       that came out of the SCANS report to make
 
          9       certain that we had our vocational technical
 
         10       people covered as well, and the higher level
 
         11       skills necessary beyond just academia.
 
         12            So, yes, ma'am.  The idea is that if a
 
         13       student can move through our continuum and
 
         14       have -- at a minimum.  We hope that students
 
         15       will skyrocket above these.  But these are --
 
         16       are the kinds of rigorous, challenging standards
 
         17       that would lead us to believe that our
 
         18       remediation rate should drop proportionately
 
         19       over time as these are fully implemented.
 
         20       That's a big part.
 
         21            You also mention real world.  The
 
         22       governors, including ours, and the CEOs who were
 
         23       in Palisades used that phrase, real world, more
 
         24       in a day-and-a-half than I thought possible,
 
         25       really calling upon us to create real world

 
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          1       opportunities for students.
 
          2            And, again, in the assessment, to make
 
          3       certain that they could actually think
 
          4       critically and solve a real world problem,
 
          5       rather than just be able to color in a bubble.
 
          6            That real world issue has come up time and
 
          7       time again.
 
          8            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Well, and I don't think
 
          9       that there's any question, without the training
 
         10       component -- which I know everybody up here, and
 
         11       you in particular, are concerned that we get
 
         12       that training component under control.
 
         13            But without that component, there's no way
 
         14       that this actually can happen because -- and it
 
         15       dates back to when -- when we were probably in
 
         16       school.  Particularly in mathematics, it has not
 
         17       been related to the real world.
 
         18            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  That's right.
 
         19            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  And so that training
 
         20       component is very important that we make sure
 
         21       that when, in fact, somebody is taught the
 
         22       Pythagorean theorem, that there is some world
 
         23       com-- real world component with that.  Or else,
 
         24       you know, it's kind of just out there.
 
         25            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Net bans,

 
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          1       for example.
 
          2            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Yeah.  Exactly.
 
          3            Very good.
 
          4            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Thank you.
 
          5            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  That's a good one.
 
          6            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  I was paying
 
          7       attention.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  I want to certainly
 
          9       compliment the Commissioner.  I also want to
 
         10       compliment the Accountability Commission, which
 
         11       the Commissioner serves as the -- as the
 
         12       Co-Chairman.
 
         13            I -- and the Legislature for the steps that
 
         14       they've taken with the -- the help of the State
 
         15       Board of Education and the Department of
 
         16       Education to get us to where we are.  I think
 
         17       with this report, we're beginning to see some
 
         18       flesh on the skeleton.  And we're beginning to
 
         19       see if -- an end process, as we see when we
 
         20       expect to get these demonstrated.
 
         21            I think we will go back to 1991, we began
 
         22       to see the beginning of this process, and a lot
 
         23       of steps that have taken place from then to
 
         24       bring us up to that.
 
         25            And I'm just delighted to see that it is

 
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          1       beginning to really take shape now.  That's --
 
          2            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  Well, Governor, and I
 
          3       want to thank you, and especially your point
 
          4       man, who's been Buddy MacKay.  You mentioned
 
          5       that he and I are the Co-Chairs of the Statewide
 
          6       Accountability Commission.
 
          7            And he has been more than supportive of
 
          8       everything that we have been trying to do.  It
 
          9       goes back to that issue of -- of
 
         10       bipartisanship.  I really don't think we're
 
         11       going to be able to do for education what it is
 
         12       we must in an -- in a partisan fashion.
 
         13            And I think Governor MacKay, and I; working
 
         14       together with the Accountability Commission;
 
         15       working together with staff; and most
 
         16       importantly, working together with the people of
 
         17       the state of Florida to hear what it is that
 
         18       they're asking us to do, and then take up the
 
         19       cause, I think as you mentioned, is starting to
 
         20       put some flesh on the skeleton.
 
         21            And we appreciate, as always, the State
 
         22       Board of Education members, each and every one
 
         23       of you.  You only get credit for what is seen up
 
         24       here.
 
         25            But for those in the audience and those in

 
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          1       other places, the State Board of Education
 
          2       members also spend an enormous amount of time
 
          3       behind the scenes working with individual staff
 
          4       members, their own and ours and others, on
 
          5       understanding these issues to make certain when
 
          6       they sit here, they can do the job that they
 
          7       have to do.  And we deeply appreciate that.
 
          8            I wish all states had State Board of
 
          9       Educations that got as involved as you all do.
 
         10       And we thank you very much for that.
 
         11            So with that, Governor, I will conclude my
 
         12       remarks and let you know that we'll be back with
 
         13       much more.  And again, thanks for indulging me
 
         14       for the presentation.
 
         15            But we thought it was very important at
 
         16       this point in time that you see it and you have
 
         17       the chance to ask some questions.
 
         18            Thanks, Governor.
 
         19            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Thank you, sir.
 
         20            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  I move to accept the
 
         21       report.
 
         22            GOVERNOR CHILES:  It's been moved and --
 
         23            COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD:  Second.
 
         24            GOVERNOR CHILES:  -- seconded.
 
         25            Without objection, the report is accepted.

 
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          1            DR. BEDFORD:  Item number 6 is the proposed
 
          2       contract for the development of the Florida
 
          3       Comprehensive Assessment.
 
          4            We would respectfully ask to withdraw that
 
          5       item at this time.
 
          6            COMMISSIONER BROGAN:  So move.
 
          7            SECRETARY MORTHAM:  Second.
 
          8            GOVERNOR CHILES:  Moved and seconded.
 
          9            Without objection, the motion to withdraw
 
         10       is approved.
 
         11