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THE CABINET

STATE OF FLORIDA

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                                        Representing:
DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS
DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
POWER PLANT SITING BOARD
BOT  OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION

 

 

                         The above agencies came to be heard before
               THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable Governor Bush presiding, in the
               Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03, The Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida,
               on the 25th day of May, 2004, commencing at approximately
               9:30 a.m.

 


                                        Reported by:

                                     KRISTEN L. BENTLEY
                                  Certified Court Reporter

 

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               APPEARANCES:

                         Representing the Florida Cabinet:

                         JEB BUSH
                         Governor

                         CHARLES H. BRONSON
                         Commissioner of Agriculture

                         CHARLIE CRIST
                         Attorney General

                         TOM GALLAGHER
                         Chief Financial Officer

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                                          I N D E X

               DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
               (Presented by BEN WATKINS)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE
               1                     Approved               5
               2                     Approved               5
               3                     Approved               6


               DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
               (Presented by JAMES ZINGALE)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               7
               2                     Approved               8


               DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS
               (Presented by ROCKY McPHERSON)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               9
               2                     Approved               9
               3                     Approved               11


               DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
               (Presented by GUY TUNNELL)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               21
               2                     Approved               25
               3                     Approved               25


               POWER PLANT SITING BOARD
               (Presented by COLLEEN CASTILLE)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               26
               2                     Approved               26

 

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               BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
               (Presented by COLLEEN CASTILLE)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               27
               2                     Approved               28
               3                     Approved               32


               STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
               (Presented by COLEMAN STIPANOVICH)

               ITEM                  ACTION                 PAGE

               1                     Approved               34
               2                     Approved               34
               3                     Approved               34

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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          1                              PROCEEDINGS

          2              GOVERNOR BUSH:  The next cabinet meeting will be

          3         Thursday, June 24th, 2004.

          4              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Everyone should bring sleeping

          5         bags and a pillow.

          6              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Exactly.  Bring your sleeping bags.

          7         We're going for the record.

          8              Division of Bond Finance.

          9              MR. WATKINS:  Good morning, Governor.  Item No. 1 is

         10         minutes from the April 13th meeting.

         11              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Is there a motion?

         12              GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

         13              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

         14              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

         15         objection, the item passes.

         16              Item 2.

         17              MR. WATKINS:  Item No. 2 is a resolution authorizing

         18         the issuance of up to $21,495,000 of capital outlay bonds

         19         for the State Board of Education for school construction

         20         for local school districts.

         21              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 2.

         22              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

         23              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

         24         objection, the item passes.

         25              MR. WATKINS:  And Item No. 3 is a resolution

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          1         authorizing the issuance of up to $13,550,000 of parking

          2         facility revenue bonds for the University of Central

          3         Florida.

          4              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion.

          5              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          6              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          7         objection, the item passes.

          8              MR. WATKINS:  Thank you.

          9              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Under construction forever, UCF.

         10              CFO GALLAGHER:  They all are.  You go to a university

         11         and show me where there's no construction.

         12              GOVERNOR BUSH:  I know.

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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Dr. Z.

          2              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

          3              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          4              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          5         objection, the item passes.  Item 2.

          6              MR. ZINGALE:  The second item is a proposed rule that

          7         clarifies and simplifies the procedure by which a public

          8         organization may use its tax exemption certificate to

          9         exempt from sales tax materials used in public

         10         construction projects.  It's had a pretty lengthy history,

         11         a lot of debate, and the statute has been on the books

         12         since '59.  If you have any questions now, I'd be glad to

         13         answer them.  If not, request approval.

         14              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Any discussion?

         15              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Governor, if I could, I'd like

         16         to get something clear, make sure I've got the right

         17         terminology here.  If construction materials are used in a

         18         public building that is paid for by tax dollars, that

         19         material that is put in that building and is going to stay

         20         on the property is not taxed; is that correct?

         21              MR. ZINGALE:  That is correct.  But there is two ways

         22         of acquiring that material.  If you acquire the material

         23         and say this is a PECO school building that's being

         24         acquired, the procedure and the statute requires that

         25         those materials be separated from the contractor and

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          1         acquired by the public entity.  If it's embedded in the

          2         contract, and that's why there's been a lot of debate, if

          3         it's embedded in the contract, okay, then sales tax will

          4         be paid by the contractor and embedded in the price.

          5              The procedure that's been on the books since '59 is

          6         very cumbersome.  We've attempted to make it as easy as

          7         possible for that public entity to go in and acquire the

          8         materials separately so they can be exempt from the

          9         taxation.  The federal government pays the tax.  So

         10         there's a big ticket item on the other end if we try to

         11         appeal it.  Most of the money that we're receiving from it

         12         today is from the federal government in that they

         13         typically roll it always into their contracts.  So this is

         14         simply a procedure trying to allow that public entity to

         15         make it easier for them to apply for this exemption and

         16         get it.

         17              GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

         18              CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

         19              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

         20         objection, the item passes.  Thank you, Jim.

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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Department of Veterans' Affairs.

          2              GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

          3              CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

          4              MR. McPHERSON:  Good morning again, Governor.  Item 1

          5         is our minutes.

          6              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a second.

          7         Without objection, the item passes.

          8              MR. McPHERSON:  Item 2 today, sir, is the request for

          9         the authority to commence rulemaking on two rules that the

         10         Department concerns.  One is veterans' preference law to

         11         construct the rules for implementation of Florida Statute

         12         governing veterans' preference.  We'll move through that

         13         process.

         14              And then the second rule is a rule that we want to

         15         conduct that will standardize the admissions process and

         16         remove some documentations that currently require

         17         certified documents when there is no need for that.  We

         18         can get the certification of veterans' status

         19         electronically from the VA without having to provide

         20         certified documents for admissions to one of our

         21         facilities.

         22              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 2.

         23              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

         24              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

         25         objection, the item passes.

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          1              MR. McPHERSON:  Item 3, sir, is a submission for

          2         approval of a study that was conducted by the Department

          3         regarding the siting of the next state veterans' nursing

          4         home.  We contracted Health Strategies, Incorporated to

          5         review 12 different areas of the state and rank them

          6         according to a set of criteria developed to identify where

          7         we ought to go and place the next nursing home sites.  The

          8         recommendations include northeast Florida, central

          9         Florida, and the Brevard County area as primary sites.

         10         And then two secondary sites in the northwest and the

         11         Treasure Coast down the road.

         12              So as we proceed through building new nursing homes,

         13         we now have a very good, solid document that identifies

         14         the veterans' populations and the need in various areas of

         15         the state.  Requesting approval of the study and approval

         16         of the fact that the Duval, Baker, Nassau County area is

         17         the area that was most suited and most in need of the next

         18         state veterans' nursing home.

         19              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 3.

         20              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

         21              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Mayor Wibbs (phonetic), do you have

         22         any comment on that?  I'm just joking.

         23              MR. McPHERSON:  He would like to see one in

         24         Pensacola, sir, and that's down the list.

         25              GOVERNOR BUSH:  That's why he's mayor emeritus.  If

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          1         he didn't abdicate, they would take his title away.

          2              MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, sir.

          3              (Laughter.)

          4              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Any discussion?  This is a thoughtful

          5         review that yielded, I think, the proper result.  Now the

          6         question is, Can we get the Legislature to fund --

          7              MR. McPHERSON:  We are already working on that for

          8         next year, sir.

          9              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There is a motion and a second.

         10         Without objection, the item passes.

         11              MR. McPHERSON:  Item 4, sir, is an update on the

         12         Florida World War II memorial.  As you know, when we

         13         created the Florida World War II memorial concept, it has

         14         five components.  And first of those components was the

         15         permanent museum exhibit in the Florida Museum of History

         16         and that, of course, was dedicated 2001, on December the

         17         7th.  And that evolution is progressing and there is some

         18         continuous work being done on that by the Department of

         19         State.

         20              Other components include a Web site for World War II

         21         resources to allow students to get there and of course the

         22         monument that we're working on.  But there are two other

         23         elements.  The first of those elements is a heritage trail

         24         series booklet.  And I'd like to have the honor of

         25         introducing Secretary of State, Glenda Hood.  Her

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          1         department has done a tremendous amount of superb work on

          2         this portion of the project.

          3              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Good morning, Secretary.

          4              SECRETARY HOOD:  Good morning, how are you?

          5              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Doing well.

          6              SECRETARY HOOD:  Good.  Good morning cabinet members

          7         as well.  I'm very pleased that the Department of State

          8         has been able to partner with the Department of Veterans'

          9         Affairs on the World War II memorial project, since its

         10         inception in fact.  And as the secretary said, we have

         11         several elements that come under our part of the

         12         partnership.  One of them is the World War II exhibit,

         13         Florida Remembers World War II.  I'm sure all of you knew

         14         that that travelled around the state.  It documents the

         15         State's response to the war including patriotic activities

         16         on the home front, the establishment of military training

         17         bases throughout the state and a variety of other things.

         18              The Web site is a catalog of historical resources

         19         related to World War II in Florida.  And then, as Rocky

         20         said, the Heritage Trail Guidebook, which is actually at

         21         the printers as we speak, and our Division of Historical

         22         Resources has developed this, is something that I believe

         23         all of you are going to be very, very proud of.

         24              I think we're going to turn the poster around right

         25         now and I'm going to talk about it first.  I'm going to go

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          1         a little bit out of order from my notes here.  As I said,

          2         our Division of Historical Resources has developed this

          3         Florida Heritage Trail Guidebook and it features over 150

          4         sites statewide that represent Florida's involvement in

          5         World War II.  And these copies are going to be

          6         distributed with school curriculum materials and through

          7         public libraries statewide so that everybody is exposed

          8         today it.

          9              And I will say that in the guide book, on Page 52, I

         10         think the Governor might be especially interested in

         11         Page 52.  There is a picture of a very distinguished past

         12         president of our country, George Herbert Walker Bush, and

         13         talks about the flight training that President Bush did in

         14         Fort Lauderdale.  So if you'll look up on the screen,

         15         you'll see a familiar face or at least --

         16              GOVERNOR BUSH:  He hadn't started shaving yet.  He

         17         didn't start shaving until he was about 19.

         18              CFO GALLAGHER:  He joined up young.

         19              SECRETARY HOOD:  So that's the Heritage Trail

         20         Guidebook and this is a rendering of the cover.  Two other

         21         things I'd like to note.  When we talk about the museum

         22         exhibit, one of the things we're very excited about is the

         23         donation of a significant group of Tuskeegee airmen,

         24         personal military items to the Museum of Florida History.

         25         And the items belong to Lieutenant James L. Polkinghorn,

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          1         Jr., who is a native of Pensacola who attended Florida A&M

          2         University and trained with the Tuskeegee airmen.  And

          3         with us today, is the great nephew of James Polkinghorn

          4         who is a graduate student at Florida A&M, Geovania Flag

          5         (phonetic) and I'd like to ask him to stand and thank he

          6         and his family for those donations to the museum.

          7              (Applause.)

          8              And then just on the Web site again, so that

          9         everybody in the state can access this, it is a statewide

         10         network of World War II resources, features military

         11         installations, veterans' organizations, historic sites,

         12         museums, libraries, universities, historical societies,

         13         and it's all made accessible to the public through the

         14         Internet on this site.  So, again, we're very pleased to

         15         be a partner with the Division of Veterans' Affairs -- the

         16         Department of Veterans' Affairs.  And we're very excited

         17         about dedicating this monument on Veteran's Day and

         18         welcoming people to the RA Gray site so that they can

         19         appreciate and value the service of our women and men in

         20         the military during World War II.  Thank you so much.

         21              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you, Secretary.

         22              MR. McPHERSON:  Thank you, Secretary Hood.  Governor,

         23         I'd like to add that Secretary Hood and her staff from the

         24         very beginning, way back when we were planning the museum,

         25         they have been superb and are terrific partners.  They are

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          1         doing wondrous things there in honoring our veterans.

          2         Thank you.

          3              We have one final element this morning, sir, and that

          4         is the fifth element of this memorial project is an

          5         educational curriculum for high school students.  It's a

          6         supplement for World War II educational courses in our

          7         high schools in the 11th grade.  We received a grant from

          8         the Department of Education for $200,000 and the Mary

          9         Brogan Museum has undertaken the project to develop a set

         10         of CDs.  And I'd like to introduce Cynthia Hollis of the

         11         Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science who was the project

         12         director for this component of the memorial.

         13              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Good morning.

         14              MS. HOLLIS:  Good morning, Governor Bush, members of

         15         the cabinet.  I'd like to just take a minute and explain

         16         what this is.  You will be getting copies of this.  It's

         17         currently under production now so we have made these

         18         especially for this meeting.  But we will send you what we

         19         consider the real copies when we get them in about a week.

         20         These are resources that will be used by high school

         21         teachers and also they could be used by middle school

         22         teachers because they also cover American history in

         23         middle school as well.

         24              They are a set of, it includes two CDs and a DVD.

         25         The CDs have 12 module topics on them and they include

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          1         things like, The Life of the GI, America at War, Ideology,

          2         Florida at War.  And all of these have subtopics that

          3         include Web sites and bibliographies, photographs,

          4         documents from the archives.  And original sources, many

          5         of which have never been seen before.  So these will be a

          6         wonderful resource for high school history teachers in the

          7         state of Florida.

          8              We also are going to be having a Web site that will

          9         be linked to the Florida History Museum Web site that will

         10         include these resources as well.  We'd like to show you

         11         some of these if you have a little bit of time.  We'd like

         12         to just go through this and show you.  You navigate this

         13         just like you would a Web site.  So I have our tech guy

         14         here because I can't talk and do this at the same time.

         15         But I just want to show you.  When you open it up, it

         16         looks just like a Web site.

         17              Okay.  Are we doing it?  (Pause.)  Okay.  While

         18         they're getting this ready, we're going to be distributing

         19         this to all 67 county media centers in the state of

         20         Florida and we'll also be teaching ten workshops across

         21         the state of Florida in the month of June.  And, let's

         22         see.  Oh, there's actually been discussion about doing

         23         further workshops potentially for colleges and

         24         universities because it is a tremendous resource, as

         25         you'll see when we get it opened up here.  Many of these

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          1         photos and documents and letters, I believe you have.  We

          2         distributed copies of these up here.  And they're

          3         wonderful letters, many of which have never been seen by

          4         the public because they're in the FSU World War II

          5         archive.

          6              Okay.  I don't know if we're going to get it open

          7         here or not.  (Pause.)  Here it goes.  Okay.  So when you

          8         open it up, you see it has an introduction.  And the

          9         introduction actually is by Rocky McPherson from Veterans'

         10         Affairs.  We'll just go ahead.  So let's go back to the

         11         table of contents.  It also has a table of contents which

         12         includes the modules and there is six on each CD.

         13              We have acknowledgments.  We have a message from

         14         Secretary Hood on there that describes the Florida History

         15         Museum exhibit and encourages people to come visit that.

         16         And then if you want to have a veteran visit your school,

         17         there is place that you can go and find out that

         18         information as well.  Let's just go into the table of

         19         contents really quickly and let's look at the life of the

         20         soldier.

         21              You also were given a printed printout of just the

         22         first one here, the life of the soldier, the introduction.

         23         But under each one of these, there are images and some

         24         video.  So let's look at some of the images here.  And

         25         these are archive images and with archival descriptions

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          1         underneath them.  And so, as you see, there is many, many

          2         images and it deals with many, many topics.  And

          3         considering the limited resources that teachers currently

          4         have in their textbooks to teach about World War II, this

          5         is an incredible resource that we've developed that we

          6         hope can actually be distributed more widely to

          7         potentially the colleges and universities.  And there was

          8         also some discussion at Veterans' Affairs about

          9         distributing these to other states at well.

         10              Okay.  Well, thank you very much.

         11              GOVERNOR BUSH:  That's nice.

         12              MS. HOLLIS:  Thanks.  I hope you enjoy it.

         13              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you very much.

         14              MR. McPHERSON:  Governor, that concludes it this

         15         morning.  We now -- this, with the delivery of these two

         16         items and of course the booklets are at the printers and

         17         these are being manufactured as we speak, we'll have

         18         completed four of the five elements of the memorial.  Our

         19         last one, of course, is the construction and dedication of

         20         the monument.  And over the summer and the fall, that will

         21         be our department's primary project.

         22              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Give me just a quick update on that.

         23              MR. McPHERSON:  The monument itself, sir, is just

         24         completing the design stage.  And we're also finishing a

         25         final element of a fundraising effort that's going to

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          1         happen on June the 19th.  And that will allow us to gain

          2         the resources.  We are doing a dinner in conjunction with

          3         the Medal of Honor Society and our department.  And thank

          4         you, sir, for agreeing to attend and be our honored guest

          5         that evening.  We are --

          6              GOVERNOR BUSH:  I'm not being honored.  I'm helping

          7         raise the money, right?

          8              MR. McPHERSON:  Yes, you are.  And that helps an

          9         awful lot.

         10              GOVERNOR BUSH:  That was part of the deal.  I don't

         11         like getting honored.

         12              MR. McPHERSON:  I know that, sir.

         13              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Particularly, with the Medal of

         14         Honor, I mean, that would be the most ridiculous thing in

         15         the world.  They're going --

         16              MR. McPHERSON:  This is -- yes, sir.  But that

         17         particular dinner should allow us to generate the final

         18         funds needed and then we'll be looking to sign the

         19         contract in early July.  Construction process of the

         20         monument is about three and a half months.  Should be

         21         completed in October.  And then, of course, with the

         22         Department of State working on an event on November the

         23         11th, Thursday, November 11th, Veteran's Day, to dedicate

         24         the final element of this memorial.

         25              GOVERNOR BUSH:  That's what I wanted to hear.

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          1              MR. McPHERSON:  Thank you, sir.

          2              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Thank you.

          3              MR. McPHERSON:  That's it for today, sir.  Thank you.

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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Department of Law Enforcement.

          2              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

          3              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          4              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion on Item 1 and a

          5         second.  Without objection, the item passes.

          6              You're looking sharp there, Commish.

          7              MR. TUNNELL:  Good morning.  Thank you, Governor.

          8              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Nice suit.

          9              MR. TUNNELL:  You too.  My wife dresses me well.  The

         10         treasurer and I got the word about the uniform of the day

         11         today.

         12              CFO GALLAGHER:  With wives like ours, we can look

         13         good, can't we?

         14              MR. TUNNELL:  There you go.  Yes, sir.  And I need

         15         all the help I can get.  Well, we had three items on the

         16         agenda, now we're down to two.  Thank you for handling

         17         No. 1 so quickly for us.

         18              Item No. 2, we respectfully submit for approval

         19         FDLE's third quarter performance report in our contracts,

         20         purchases and agreements over $100,000 for the period of

         21         January 1 through March 31st, 2004.  We're pleased with

         22         our progress this year.  And with your indulgence, I'd

         23         like to make mention in particular of the good work going

         24         on in our crime labs.  We've handled over 61,000 service

         25         requests year to date and we're turning those results back

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          1         to law enforcement very quickly.  We're at or below

          2         turnaround times in seven of our nine crime lab

          3         disciplines.  And through federal grant dollars, we're

          4         able to continue to help maximize our returns in a very

          5         important area, that being serology and DNA.

          6              As you know, we've seen a tremendous increase in

          7         demand in this particular area and outsourcing has helped

          8         us reduce the backlog of these cases by some 50 percent.

          9         As these outsourced cases are returned to us, they are run

         10         against the DNA database that we have currently and we

         11         have, through this outsourcing, we've been able to clear

         12         roughly 35 percent or have gotten hits on roughly

         13         35 percent of these cases.  These hits, of course,

         14         translate into cases solved as they match the DNA from

         15         crime scenes to known offender samples in the State's DNA

         16         crime base.

         17              I'm also happy to share with you good news that

         18         earlier this week we received notice of an additional

         19         $3.3 million dollars in federal funding to help further in

         20         our DNA casework.  Through this grant, it will provide

         21         more dollars for outsourcing.  And unlike, year to date,

         22         the funding we receive from the federal government, it

         23         does not limit the type of DNA cases that we outsource.

         24         So we can use these dollars to outsource cases in which we

         25         have a suspect.  Yes, sir.

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          1              CFO GALLAGHER:  I have a question.  I know that last

          2         year when we were doing this quarterly report, that was an

          3         area that truly we had a huge backlog in DNA.

          4              MR. TUNNELL:  Yes, sir.

          5              CFO GALLAGHER:  I see that the goal this past year

          6         was to do 30,000, that's the goal for next year.  We did

          7         28,000.  That's a huge number.  If -- those other 2,000

          8         could be pretty important.  You're talking about

          9         contracting out.  Tell me how that works.

         10              MR. TUNNELL:  Well, we contract out to various

         11         private labs that are certified.  They have to meet a

         12         certain standard, of course, in order for us to outsource.

         13         The problem we're looking at now, Treasurer, is the fact

         14         that so many of these other labs are also overwhelmed by

         15         the caseload and we're kind of limited this year on what

         16         else we can do.  So we're hoping through rebidding this

         17         next year we'll be able to draw more interest from some of

         18         these private, certified labs.

         19              CFO GALLAGHER:  So that's a good business to get in,

         20         the DNA testing?

         21              MR. TUNNELL:  Apparently so.  Not for me.  I'm not

         22         that technically sound.  But it is a very lucrative

         23         business, I think, right now.

         24              CFO GALLAGHER:  And do you think we're going to start

         25         staying abreast of these over this next year?

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          1              MR. TUNNELL:  We certainly hope so.  Yes, sir.  As

          2         with all State government, we're having trouble retaining

          3         some of our folks with the competition from private

          4         industry and that's one of the issues.  We're constantly

          5         in a training mode for some of our technicians and

          6         analysts.  But we hope to be able to get caught up.

          7              CFO GALLAGHER:  How many labs do you do DNA in in

          8         Florida?  Just up here in Tallahassee, or all of them?

          9              MR. TUNNELL:  We've got -- I'm not sure.

         10              GOVERNOR BUSH:  More than one though.

         11              MR. TUNNELL:  Yes.  Yes, sir.  Tallahassee --

         12              CFO GALLAGHER:  Yeah, but I didn't know if you do DNA

         13         in all of them or not.

         14              MR. TUNNELL:  Not in all of them.  But I think there

         15         are two or three that we do if I'm not mistaken.

         16              CFO GALLAGHER:  How about in Miami or Tampa?  Tampa

         17         and Miami for sure we hear, okay, and Tallahassee.  We

         18         know you do it here.  Okay.

         19              MR. TUNNELL:  Any other questions on that?  While we

         20         know there is still a lot of work to do in this area,

         21         we're very pleased with the progress we've been able to

         22         make and we continue to look at ways to better improve our

         23         services back to law enforcement as we get these requests.

         24         And that's the end of Item 2.

         25              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Is there a motion?

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          1              GENERAL CRIST:  Motion.

          2              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

          3              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          4         objection, the item passes.

          5              MR. TUNNELL:  Thank you.  Item No. 3, we respectfully

          6         submit for approval FDLE's performance contract for fiscal

          7         year 2004, 2005.

          8              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 3.

          9              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

         10              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

         11         objection, the item passes.  Thank you, Guy.

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                     POWER PLANT SITING BOARD - MAY 25, 2004
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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Siting Board.  Secretary Castille.

          2              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on the minutes.

          3              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          4              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          5         objection, the item passes.

          6              Item 2.

          7              MS. CASTILLE:  Item 2 is withdrawn.

          8              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion to withdraw Item 2.

          9              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Second.

         10              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Motion to withdraw Item 2 and second.

         11         Without objection, the item is withdrawn.

         12              MS. CASTILLE:  That concludes Power Plant Siting.

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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Board of Trustees.

          2              MS. CASTILLE:  Minutes from the meeting of March 9th.

          3              GENERAL CRIST:  Motion on the minutes.

          4              CFO GALLAGHER:  Second.

          5              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          6         objection, the item passes.

          7              Item 2.

          8              MS. CASTILLE:  Item 2 is consideration of two option

          9         agreements to acquire 406 acres within the Tomoka State

         10         Park additions and inholdings project from the Trust for

         11         Public Land.  This acquisition involves two parcels in the

         12         Mission Pines parcel and the Tall Pines parcel.  The

         13         Mission Pines parcel is being acquired for 1,048,000.

         14         Approximate value per acre is $4,629.  And the Tall Pines

         15         parcel is being acquired for $2.2 million, approximately

         16         12,000 an acre.  The difference in the per acre value is

         17         attributable to the percentage of wetlands in the Mission

         18         Pines versus the Tall Pines tract.

         19              The tract you see before you will be acquired to be

         20         managed by DEP's Division of Recreation and Parks as a

         21         part of Tomoka State Park.  It's a huge win for the

         22         citizens of Florida as another step towards preserving the

         23         greenway corridor in northeast Florida.  The plantation

         24         ruins that have been discovered on the Mission Pines tract

         25         include ruins of a residence and the foundation of a

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          1         kitchen.  It is expected that further surveys will turn up

          2         more plantation ruins.  Another view of the Tall Pines

          3         tract.  Do we have a motion?

          4              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 2.

          5              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          6              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          7         objection, the item passes.

          8              MS. CASTILLE:  Item 3.  Item 3 is a consideration of

          9         the delegation of authority to the secretary of DEP or my

         10         designee to accomplish an acquisition through negotiation

         11         or condemnation and include authority to prepare and

         12         execute the necessary parcel-specific condemnation

         13         resolution.

         14              Secondly, a waiver of the Board of Trustees' eminent

         15         domain policy allowing for homestead to be acquired

         16         without owner approval.  And, third, direction to DEP to

         17         acquire a fee simple interest via eminent domain in the

         18         event that negotiations do not result in an agreement.

         19              Item 4 -- and there's also a fourth request that we

         20         be given time to consider -- to continue negotiations with

         21         Mr. Hardy and that we absolutely could not take any

         22         eminent domain action prior to June 25th and no later than

         23         August 31st of this year.

         24              CFO GALLAGHER:  Governor, based on the letter to Eva

         25         Armstrong from Gregory Ricks, (phonetic) Esquire, of

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          1         Brigham Moore where he's confirming that based on his

          2         conversation -- he is an attorney obviously -- on his

          3         conversation with S.W. Moore, Esquire and Jesse Hardy that

          4         he's been asked to represent to the Governor and Cabinet

          5         their concurrence with the direction sought by DEP and

          6         outlined above in the agenda that we've been provided

          7         today, I'll move Item 3.

          8              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          9              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a second.  Any

         10         discussion?

         11              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Question.

         12              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Yes.

         13              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Madam Secretary, I just -- I

         14         want to make sure of the process here.  Now if you do

         15         decide because of this request to go into --

         16              MS. CASTILLE:  Eminent domain.

         17              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  -- right, eminent domain

         18         procedures, now, should there be any circumstances that

         19         pop out of that that seems to be egregious to Mr. Hardy's

         20         party, they have the ability to come back to the Board

         21         should that happen, right?  I mean, we're not giving up

         22         any --

         23              MS. CASTILLE:  We do.  And I will -- I want to assure

         24         you that we will do that.  As it stands right now --

         25              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Colleen, he was asking if Mr. Hardy

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          1         has the right to stop it if --

          2              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Assuming that he feels and the

          3         attorneys for Mr. Hardy feel that this didn't work out

          4         like they thought it was going to, they do have the

          5         ability to turn around and come back to the Board?

          6              MS. CASTILLE:  We would accept that.  That is not

          7         what the plan is.  The plan is to go forward with eminent

          8         domain.

          9              CFO GALLAGHER:  They are pretty clear in the letter

         10         here.  I will just read you, That you represented and the

         11         current agenda for the Board of Trustees reflect that DEP

         12         will seek in lieu of Mr. Hardy's request that an

         13         additional deferment, direction from the Board to continue

         14         earnest and good faith negotiation with Mr. Hardy and that

         15         eminent domain proceedings, if authorized, will be

         16         initiated no sooner than June 25th, 2004 and no later than

         17         August 31st, 2004.

         18              They recognize that is the parameters they are

         19         working on if they cannot come to an agreement by

         20         June 25th.  Then somewhere between the 25th and

         21         August 31st they recognize that eminent domain will move

         22         in and the Court will come up with a price.  And, I mean,

         23         it's very hard for us to go against it when they've agreed

         24         to it.  That's my opinion anyway.

         25              COMMISSIONER BRONSON:  Let me just state that my

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          1         concern is that -- I mean I want to be fair with this

          2         whole process and we've been very fair because we have put

          3         this off how many times trying to work out an agreement

          4         with Mr. Hardy and I hope that agreement does get worked

          5         out with DEP being the lead agency in this.

          6              But knowing that we've had some hiccups before like

          7         offering the Miccosukees land in Jacksonville which is way

          8         away from where the Miccosukees live, that they disagreed

          9         with some issues when they were being dealt with.  I just

         10         want to make sure that there is, since it is the Board

         11         that is doing eminent domain, not DEP, they are

         12         representing the Board.  But I just want to make sure if

         13         there's a hiccup in here, that we're going to hear about

         14         it back at the Board level.

         15              MS. CASTILLE:  Commissioner Bronson, let me just give

         16         you a little bit of a history of what we've done since

         17         this item has been deferred.  Based on the direction that

         18         you gave us, that you wanted to make sure we were caring

         19         and compassionate with Mr. Hardy and his adopted family,

         20         we've sure --

         21              GOVERNOR BUSH:  It's not adopted family.  We keep

         22         saying "adopted family".

         23              MS. CASTILLE:  Informally adopted family.

         24         (Laughter.)  Informally.  We have assured that any of the

         25         exchanges that we have proposed to Mr. Hardy have been in

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          1         the school district that Tommy currently attends, that he

          2         can -- that we have four sites that we have presented for

          3         his review and visitation and three of those sites we

          4         believe can effectively allow him to continue the type of

          5         business that he is currently in.  And so -- and we would

          6         permit that business.

          7              So what we are doing, we are openly and honestly and

          8         truthfully dealing with him to ensure that he gets that

          9         opportunity.  But we do have a very huge goal in front of

         10         us of Everglades restoration.  This piece of property is

         11         right in the middle of a critical project for Everglades

         12         restoration.  And restoring much of Fakahatchee Strand and

         13         the Picayune State Forest which is managed by Forestry.

         14         So we are attempting to make it a win/win situation for

         15         both and to be -- and to respect Mr. Hardy's

         16         constitutional property rights.  And so we are asking for

         17         the ability to move forward with eminent domain without

         18         having to come back before the Board.

         19              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Which the applicant or which

         20         Mr. Hardy and his legal representative have agreed to.

         21              MS. CASTILLE:  Correct.

         22              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a second.  Any

         23         other discussion?

         24              All in favor say aye.  Aye.  All opposed -- motion

         25         passes unanimously.

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          1              MS. CASTILLE:  Thank you, Governor and members of the

          2         cabinet.

          3              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Progress.

          4              CFO GALLAGHER:  Battle.  You did a great job.

          5              MS. CASTILLE:  Just keep moving forward.

          6              CFO GALLAGHER:  Amen.

          7              MS. CASTILLE:  That's the extent of our agenda.

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          1              GOVERNOR BUSH:  State Board of Administration.

          2              THE WITNESS:  Motion on the minutes.

          3              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          4              GOVERNOR BUSH:  Moved and seconded.  Without

          5         objection, Item 1 passes.

          6              Item 2.

          7              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 2.

          8              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

          9              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a second.

         10         Without objection, the item passes.

         11              MR. STIPANOVICH:  Item No. 3, Governor, and members,

         12         is the proposed budgets for the fiscal year 2004, 2005.

         13              CFO GALLAGHER:  Motion on 3.

         14              GENERAL CRIST:  Second.

         15              GOVERNOR BUSH:  There's a motion and a second.

         16         Without objection, the item passes.

         17              MR. STIPANOVICH:  Thank you very much.

         18              CFO GALLAGHER:  Thank you, Coleman.

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          7              I, KRISTEN L. BENTLEY, Court Reporter, certify that

          8    the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at the time and

          9    place therein designated; that my shorthand notes were

         10    thereafter translated under my supervision; and the foregoing

         11    pages numbered 1 through 34 are a true and correct record of

         12    the aforesaid proceedings.

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         14              I further certify that I am not a relative, employee,

         15    attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative

         16    or employee of any of the parties' attorney or counsel

         17    connected with the action, nor am I financially interested in

         18    the action.

         19              DATED this 1st day of June, 2004.

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