THE
CABINET
STATE OF FLORIDA
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Representing:
DIVISION
OF BOND FINANCE
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS'
AFFAIRS
DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
POWER PLANT SITING
BOARD
BOT OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST
FUND
STATE BOARD OF
ADMINISTRATION
The above agencies came to be heard
before
THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable Governor Bush presiding, in
the
Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03, The Capitol, Tallahassee,
Florida,
on the 25th day of May, 2004, commencing at
approximately
9:30 a.m.
Reported by:
KRISTEN L.
BENTLEY
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APPEARANCES:
Representing the Florida Cabinet:
JEB
BUSH
Governor
CHARLES H.
BRONSON
Commissioner of Agriculture
CHARLIE
CRIST
Attorney General
TOM
GALLAGHER
Chief Financial Officer
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DIVISION OF BOND
FINANCE
(Presented by BEN WATKINS)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
5
2
Approved
5
3
Approved
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DEPARTMENT OF
REVENUE
(Presented by JAMES ZINGALE)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
7
2
Approved
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DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS'
AFFAIRS
(Presented by ROCKY McPHERSON)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
9
2
Approved
9
3
Approved
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DEPARTMENT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT
(Presented by GUY TUNNELL)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
21
2
Approved
25
3
Approved
25
POWER PLANT SITING
BOARD
(Presented by COLLEEN CASTILLE)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
26
2
Approved
26
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BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST
FUND
(Presented by COLLEEN CASTILLE)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
27
2
Approved
28
3
Approved
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STATE BOARD OF
ADMINISTRATION
(Presented by COLEMAN STIPANOVICH)
ITEM
ACTION
PAGE
1
Approved
34
2
Approved
34
3
Approved
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DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE - MAY 25,
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PROCEEDINGS
2
GOVERNOR BUSH: The next cabinet meeting will be
3 Thursday, June 24th,
2004.
4
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Everyone should bring sleeping
5 bags and a pillow.
6
GOVERNOR BUSH: Exactly. Bring your sleeping bags.
7 We're going for the
record.
8
Division of Bond Finance.
9
MR. WATKINS: Good morning, Governor. Item No. 1 is
10 minutes from the
April 13th meeting.
11
GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
12
GENERAL CRIST: Motion.
13
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Second.
14
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
15 objection, the item
passes.
16
Item 2.
17
MR. WATKINS: Item No. 2 is a resolution authorizing
18 the issuance of up to
$21,495,000 of capital outlay bonds
19 for the State Board
of Education for school construction
20 for local school
districts.
21
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 2.
22
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
23
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
24 objection, the item
passes.
25
MR. WATKINS: And Item No. 3 is a resolution
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1 authorizing the
issuance of up to $13,550,000 of parking
2 facility revenue bonds
for the University of Central
3 Florida.
4
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion.
5
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
6
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
7 objection, the item
passes.
8
MR. WATKINS: Thank you.
9
GOVERNOR BUSH: Under construction forever, UCF.
10
CFO GALLAGHER: They all are. You go to a university
11 and show me where
there's no construction.
12
GOVERNOR BUSH: I know.
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GOVERNOR BUSH: Dr. Z.
2
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on the minutes.
3
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
4
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
5 objection, the item
passes. Item 2.
6
MR. ZINGALE: The second item is a proposed rule that
7 clarifies and
simplifies the procedure by which a public
8 organization may use
its tax exemption certificate to
9 exempt from sales tax
materials used in public
10 construction
projects. It's had a pretty lengthy history,
11 a lot of debate, and
the statute has been on the books
12 since '59. If
you have any questions now, I'd be glad to
13 answer them. If
not, request approval.
14
GOVERNOR BUSH: Any discussion?
15
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Governor, if I could, I'd like
16 to get something
clear, make sure I've got the right
17 terminology
here. If construction materials are used in a
18 public building that
is paid for by tax dollars, that
19 material that is put
in that building and is going to stay
20 on the property is
not taxed; is that correct?
21
MR. ZINGALE: That is correct. But there is two ways
22 of acquiring that
material. If you acquire the material
23 and say this is a
PECO school building that's being
24 acquired, the
procedure and the statute requires that
25 those materials be
separated from the contractor and
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1 acquired by the public
entity. If it's embedded in the
2 contract, and that's
why there's been a lot of debate, if
3 it's embedded in the
contract, okay, then sales tax will
4 be paid by the
contractor and embedded in the price.
5
The procedure that's been on the books since '59 is
6 very cumbersome.
We've attempted to make it as easy as
7 possible for that
public entity to go in and acquire the
8 materials separately
so they can be exempt from the
9 taxation. The
federal government pays the tax. So
10 there's a big ticket
item on the other end if we try to
11 appeal it. Most
of the money that we're receiving from it
12 today is from the
federal government in that they
13 typically roll it
always into their contracts. So this is
14 simply a procedure
trying to allow that public entity to
15 make it easier for
them to apply for this exemption and
16 get it.
17
GENERAL CRIST: Motion.
18
CFO GALLAGHER: Second.
19
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
20 objection, the item
passes. Thank you, Jim.
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GOVERNOR BUSH: Department of Veterans' Affairs.
2
GENERAL CRIST: Motion.
3
CFO GALLAGHER: Second.
4
MR. McPHERSON: Good morning again, Governor. Item 1
5 is our minutes.
6
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion and a second.
7 Without objection, the
item passes.
8
MR. McPHERSON: Item 2 today, sir, is the request for
9 the authority to
commence rulemaking on two rules that the
10 Department
concerns. One is veterans' preference law to
11 construct the rules
for implementation of Florida Statute
12 governing veterans'
preference. We'll move through that
13 process.
14
And then the second rule is a rule that we want to
15 conduct that will
standardize the admissions process and
16 remove some
documentations that currently require
17 certified documents
when there is no need for that. We
18 can get the
certification of veterans' status
19 electronically from
the VA without having to provide
20 certified documents
for admissions to one of our
21 facilities.
22
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 2.
23
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Second.
24
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
25 objection, the item
passes.
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MR. McPHERSON: Item 3, sir, is a submission for
2 approval of a study
that was conducted by the Department
3 regarding the siting
of the next state veterans' nursing
4 home. We
contracted Health Strategies, Incorporated to
5 review 12 different
areas of the state and rank them
6 according to a set of
criteria developed to identify where
7 we ought to go and
place the next nursing home sites. The
8 recommendations
include northeast Florida, central
9 Florida, and the
Brevard County area as primary sites.
10 And then two
secondary sites in the northwest and the
11 Treasure Coast down
the road.
12
So as we proceed through building new nursing homes,
13 we now have a very
good, solid document that identifies
14 the veterans'
populations and the need in various areas of
15 the state.
Requesting approval of the study and approval
16 of the fact that the
Duval, Baker, Nassau County area is
17 the area that was
most suited and most in need of the next
18 state veterans'
nursing home.
19
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 3.
20
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Second.
21
GOVERNOR BUSH: Mayor Wibbs (phonetic), do you have
22 any comment on
that? I'm just joking.
23
MR. McPHERSON: He would like to see one in
24 Pensacola, sir, and
that's down the list.
25
GOVERNOR BUSH: That's why he's mayor emeritus. If
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1 he didn't abdicate,
they would take his title away.
2
MR. McPHERSON: Yes, sir.
3
(Laughter.)
4
GOVERNOR BUSH: Any discussion? This is a thoughtful
5 review that yielded, I
think, the proper result. Now the
6 question is, Can we
get the Legislature to fund --
7
MR. McPHERSON: We are already working on that for
8 next year, sir.
9
GOVERNOR BUSH: There is a motion and a second.
10 Without objection,
the item passes.
11
MR. McPHERSON: Item 4, sir, is an update on the
12 Florida World War II
memorial. As you know, when we
13 created the Florida
World War II memorial concept, it has
14 five
components. And first of those components was the
15 permanent museum
exhibit in the Florida Museum of History
16 and that, of course,
was dedicated 2001, on December the
17 7th. And that
evolution is progressing and there is some
18 continuous work being
done on that by the Department of
19 State.
20
Other components include a Web site for World War II
21 resources to allow
students to get there and of course the
22 monument that we're
working on. But there are two other
23 elements. The
first of those elements is a heritage trail
24 series booklet.
And I'd like to have the honor of
25 introducing Secretary
of State, Glenda Hood. Her
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1 department has done a
tremendous amount of superb work on
2 this portion of the
project.
3
GOVERNOR BUSH: Good morning, Secretary.
4
SECRETARY HOOD: Good morning, how are you?
5
GOVERNOR BUSH: Doing well.
6
SECRETARY HOOD: Good. Good morning cabinet members
7 as well. I'm
very pleased that the Department of State
8 has been able to
partner with the Department of Veterans'
9 Affairs on the World
War II memorial project, since its
10 inception in
fact. And as the secretary said, we have
11 several elements that
come under our part of the
12 partnership.
One of them is the World War II exhibit,
13 Florida Remembers
World War II. I'm sure all of you knew
14 that that travelled
around the state. It documents the
15 State's response to
the war including patriotic activities
16 on the home front,
the establishment of military training
17 bases throughout the
state and a variety of other things.
18
The Web site is a catalog of historical resources
19 related to World War
II in Florida. And then, as Rocky
20 said, the Heritage
Trail Guidebook, which is actually at
21 the printers as we
speak, and our Division of Historical
22 Resources has
developed this, is something that I believe
23 all of you are going
to be very, very proud of.
24
I think we're going to turn the poster around right
25 now and I'm going to
talk about it first. I'm going to go
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1 a little bit out of
order from my notes here. As I said,
2 our Division of
Historical Resources has developed this
3 Florida Heritage Trail
Guidebook and it features over 150
4 sites statewide that
represent Florida's involvement in
5 World War II.
And these copies are going to be
6 distributed with
school curriculum materials and through
7 public libraries
statewide so that everybody is exposed
8 today it.
9
And I will say that in the guide book, on Page 52, I
10 think the Governor
might be especially interested in
11 Page 52. There
is a picture of a very distinguished past
12 president of our
country, George Herbert Walker Bush, and
13 talks about the
flight training that President Bush did in
14 Fort
Lauderdale. So if you'll look up on the screen,
15 you'll see a familiar
face or at least --
16
GOVERNOR BUSH: He hadn't started shaving yet. He
17 didn't start shaving
until he was about 19.
18
CFO GALLAGHER: He joined up young.
19
SECRETARY HOOD: So that's the Heritage Trail
20 Guidebook and this is
a rendering of the cover. Two other
21 things I'd like to
note. When we talk about the museum
22 exhibit, one of the
things we're very excited about is the
23 donation of a
significant group of Tuskeegee airmen,
24 personal military
items to the Museum of Florida History.
25 And the items belong
to Lieutenant James L. Polkinghorn,
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1 Jr., who is a native
of Pensacola who attended Florida A&M
2 University and trained
with the Tuskeegee airmen. And
3 with us today, is the
great nephew of James Polkinghorn
4 who is a graduate
student at Florida A&M, Geovania Flag
5 (phonetic) and I'd
like to ask him to stand and thank he
6 and his family for
those donations to the museum.
7
(Applause.)
8
And then just on the Web site again, so that
9 everybody in the state
can access this, it is a statewide
10 network of World War
II resources, features military
11 installations,
veterans' organizations, historic sites,
12 museums, libraries,
universities, historical societies,
13 and it's all made
accessible to the public through the
14 Internet on this
site. So, again, we're very pleased to
15 be a partner with the
Division of Veterans' Affairs -- the
16 Department of
Veterans' Affairs. And we're very excited
17 about dedicating this
monument on Veteran's Day and
18 welcoming people to
the RA Gray site so that they can
19 appreciate and value
the service of our women and men in
20 the military during
World War II. Thank you so much.
21
GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, Secretary.
22
MR. McPHERSON: Thank you, Secretary Hood. Governor,
23 I'd like to add that
Secretary Hood and her staff from the
24 very beginning, way
back when we were planning the museum,
25 they have been superb
and are terrific partners. They are
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1 doing wondrous things
there in honoring our veterans.
2 Thank you.
3
We have one final element this morning, sir, and that
4 is the fifth element
of this memorial project is an
5 educational curriculum
for high school students. It's a
6 supplement for World
War II educational courses in our
7 high schools in the
11th grade. We received a grant from
8 the Department of
Education for $200,000 and the Mary
9 Brogan Museum has
undertaken the project to develop a set
10 of CDs. And I'd
like to introduce Cynthia Hollis of the
11 Mary Brogan Museum of
Art and Science who was the project
12 director for this
component of the memorial.
13
GOVERNOR BUSH: Good morning.
14
MS. HOLLIS: Good morning, Governor Bush, members of
15 the cabinet.
I'd like to just take a minute and explain
16 what this is.
You will be getting copies of this. It's
17 currently under
production now so we have made these
18 especially for this
meeting. But we will send you what we
19 consider the real
copies when we get them in about a week.
20 These are resources
that will be used by high school
21 teachers and also
they could be used by middle school
22 teachers because they
also cover American history in
23 middle school as
well.
24
They are a set of, it includes two CDs and a DVD.
25 The CDs have 12
module topics on them and they include
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1 things like, The Life
of the GI, America at War, Ideology,
2 Florida at War.
And all of these have subtopics that
3 include Web sites and
bibliographies, photographs,
4 documents from the
archives. And original sources, many
5 of which have never
been seen before. So these will be a
6 wonderful resource for
high school history teachers in the
7 state of Florida.
8
We also are going to be having a Web site that will
9 be linked to the
Florida History Museum Web site that will
10 include these
resources as well. We'd like to show you
11 some of these if you
have a little bit of time. We'd like
12 to just go through
this and show you. You navigate this
13 just like you would a
Web site. So I have our tech guy
14 here because I can't
talk and do this at the same time.
15 But I just want to
show you. When you open it up, it
16 looks just like a Web
site.
17
Okay. Are we doing it? (Pause.) Okay. While
18 they're getting this
ready, we're going to be distributing
19 this to all 67 county
media centers in the state of
20 Florida and we'll
also be teaching ten workshops across
21 the state of Florida
in the month of June. And, let's
22 see. Oh,
there's actually been discussion about doing
23 further workshops
potentially for colleges and
24 universities because
it is a tremendous resource, as
25 you'll see when we
get it opened up here. Many of these
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1 photos and documents
and letters, I believe you have. We
2 distributed copies of
these up here. And they're
3 wonderful letters,
many of which have never been seen by
4 the public because
they're in the FSU World War II
5 archive.
6
Okay. I don't know if we're going to get it open
7 here or not.
(Pause.) Here it goes. Okay. So when you
8 open it up, you see it
has an introduction. And the
9 introduction actually
is by Rocky McPherson from Veterans'
10 Affairs. We'll
just go ahead. So let's go back to the
11 table of
contents. It also has a table of contents which
12 includes the modules
and there is six on each CD.
13
We have acknowledgments. We have a message from
14 Secretary Hood on
there that describes the Florida History
15 Museum exhibit and
encourages people to come visit that.
16 And then if you want
to have a veteran visit your school,
17 there is place that
you can go and find out that
18 information as
well. Let's just go into the table of
19 contents really
quickly and let's look at the life of the
20 soldier.
21
You also were given a printed printout of just the
22 first one here, the
life of the soldier, the introduction.
23 But under each one of
these, there are images and some
24 video. So let's
look at some of the images here. And
25 these are archive
images and with archival descriptions
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1 underneath them.
And so, as you see, there is many, many
2 images and it deals
with many, many topics. And
3 considering the
limited resources that teachers currently
4 have in their
textbooks to teach about World War II, this
5 is an incredible
resource that we've developed that we
6 hope can actually be
distributed more widely to
7 potentially the
colleges and universities. And there was
8 also some discussion
at Veterans' Affairs about
9 distributing these to
other states at well.
10
Okay. Well, thank you very much.
11
GOVERNOR BUSH: That's nice.
12
MS. HOLLIS: Thanks. I hope you enjoy it.
13
GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you very much.
14
MR. McPHERSON: Governor, that concludes it this
15 morning. We now
-- this, with the delivery of these two
16 items and of course
the booklets are at the printers and
17 these are being
manufactured as we speak, we'll have
18 completed four of the
five elements of the memorial. Our
19 last one, of course,
is the construction and dedication of
20 the monument.
And over the summer and the fall, that will
21 be our department's
primary project.
22
GOVERNOR BUSH: Give me just a quick update on that.
23
MR. McPHERSON: The monument itself, sir, is just
24 completing the design
stage. And we're also finishing a
25 final element of a
fundraising effort that's going to
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1 happen on June the
19th. And that will allow us to gain
2 the resources.
We are doing a dinner in conjunction with
3 the Medal of Honor
Society and our department. And thank
4 you, sir, for agreeing
to attend and be our honored guest
5 that evening. We
are --
6
GOVERNOR BUSH: I'm not being honored. I'm helping
7 raise the money,
right?
8
MR. McPHERSON: Yes, you are. And that helps an
9 awful lot.
10
GOVERNOR BUSH: That was part of the deal. I don't
11 like getting
honored.
12
MR. McPHERSON: I know that, sir.
13
GOVERNOR BUSH: Particularly, with the Medal of
14 Honor, I mean, that
would be the most ridiculous thing in
15 the world.
They're going --
16
MR. McPHERSON: This is -- yes, sir. But that
17 particular dinner
should allow us to generate the final
18 funds needed and then
we'll be looking to sign the
19 contract in early
July. Construction process of the
20 monument is about
three and a half months. Should be
21 completed in
October. And then, of course, with the
22 Department of State
working on an event on November the
23 11th, Thursday,
November 11th, Veteran's Day, to dedicate
24 the final element of
this memorial.
25
GOVERNOR BUSH: That's what I wanted to hear.
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MR. McPHERSON: Thank you, sir.
2
GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you.
3
MR. McPHERSON: That's it for today, sir. Thank you.
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GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you.
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GOVERNOR BUSH: Department of Law Enforcement.
2
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on the minutes.
3
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
4
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion on Item 1 and a
5 second. Without
objection, the item passes.
6
You're looking sharp there, Commish.
7
MR. TUNNELL: Good morning. Thank you, Governor.
8
GOVERNOR BUSH: Nice suit.
9
MR. TUNNELL: You too. My wife dresses me well. The
10 treasurer and I got
the word about the uniform of the day
11 today.
12
CFO GALLAGHER: With wives like ours, we can look
13 good, can't we?
14
MR. TUNNELL: There you go. Yes, sir. And I need
15 all the help I can
get. Well, we had three items on the
16 agenda, now we're
down to two. Thank you for handling
17 No. 1 so quickly for
us.
18
Item No. 2, we respectfully submit for approval
19 FDLE's third quarter
performance report in our contracts,
20 purchases and
agreements over $100,000 for the period of
21 January 1 through
March 31st, 2004. We're pleased with
22 our progress this
year. And with your indulgence, I'd
23 like to make mention
in particular of the good work going
24 on in our crime
labs. We've handled over 61,000 service
25 requests year to date
and we're turning those results back
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1 to law enforcement
very quickly. We're at or below
2 turnaround times in
seven of our nine crime lab
3 disciplines. And
through federal grant dollars, we're
4 able to continue to
help maximize our returns in a very
5 important area, that
being serology and DNA.
6
As you know, we've seen a tremendous increase in
7 demand in this
particular area and outsourcing has helped
8 us reduce the backlog
of these cases by some 50 percent.
9 As these outsourced
cases are returned to us, they are run
10 against the DNA
database that we have currently and we
11 have, through this
outsourcing, we've been able to clear
12 roughly 35 percent or
have gotten hits on roughly
13 35 percent of these
cases. These hits, of course,
14 translate into cases
solved as they match the DNA from
15 crime scenes to known
offender samples in the State's DNA
16 crime base.
17
I'm also happy to share with you good news that
18 earlier this week we
received notice of an additional
19 $3.3 million dollars
in federal funding to help further in
20 our DNA
casework. Through this grant, it will provide
21 more dollars for
outsourcing. And unlike, year to date,
22 the funding we
receive from the federal government, it
23 does not limit the
type of DNA cases that we outsource.
24 So we can use these
dollars to outsource cases in which we
25 have a suspect.
Yes, sir.
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CFO GALLAGHER: I have a question. I know that last
2 year when we were
doing this quarterly report, that was an
3 area that truly we had
a huge backlog in DNA.
4
MR. TUNNELL: Yes, sir.
5
CFO GALLAGHER: I see that the goal this past year
6 was to do 30,000,
that's the goal for next year. We did
7 28,000. That's a
huge number. If -- those other 2,000
8 could be pretty
important. You're talking about
9 contracting out.
Tell me how that works.
10
MR. TUNNELL: Well, we contract out to various
11 private labs that are
certified. They have to meet a
12 certain standard, of
course, in order for us to outsource.
13 The problem we're
looking at now, Treasurer, is the fact
14 that so many of these
other labs are also overwhelmed by
15 the caseload and
we're kind of limited this year on what
16 else we can do.
So we're hoping through rebidding this
17 next year we'll be
able to draw more interest from some of
18 these private,
certified labs.
19
CFO GALLAGHER: So that's a good business to get in,
20 the DNA testing?
21
MR. TUNNELL: Apparently so. Not for me. I'm not
22 that technically
sound. But it is a very lucrative
23 business, I think,
right now.
24
CFO GALLAGHER: And do you think we're going to start
25 staying abreast of
these over this next year?
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MR. TUNNELL: We certainly hope so. Yes, sir. As
2 with all State
government, we're having trouble retaining
3 some of our folks with
the competition from private
4 industry and that's
one of the issues. We're constantly
5 in a training mode for
some of our technicians and
6 analysts. But we
hope to be able to get caught up.
7
CFO GALLAGHER: How many labs do you do DNA in in
8 Florida? Just up
here in Tallahassee, or all of them?
9
MR. TUNNELL: We've got -- I'm not sure.
10
GOVERNOR BUSH: More than one though.
11
MR. TUNNELL: Yes. Yes, sir. Tallahassee --
12
CFO GALLAGHER: Yeah, but I didn't know if you do DNA
13 in all of them or
not.
14
MR. TUNNELL: Not in all of them. But I think there
15 are two or three that
we do if I'm not mistaken.
16
CFO GALLAGHER: How about in Miami or Tampa? Tampa
17 and Miami for sure we
hear, okay, and Tallahassee. We
18 know you do it
here. Okay.
19
MR. TUNNELL: Any other questions on that? While we
20 know there is still a
lot of work to do in this area,
21 we're very pleased
with the progress we've been able to
22 make and we continue
to look at ways to better improve our
23 services back to law
enforcement as we get these requests.
24 And that's the end of
Item 2.
25
GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
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GENERAL CRIST: Motion.
2
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Second.
3
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
4 objection, the item
passes.
5
MR. TUNNELL: Thank you. Item No. 3, we respectfully
6 submit for approval
FDLE's performance contract for fiscal
7 year 2004, 2005.
8
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 3.
9
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
10
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
11 objection, the item
passes. Thank you, Guy.
12
MR. TUNNELL: Thank you very much.
13
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1
GOVERNOR BUSH: Siting Board. Secretary Castille.
2
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on the minutes.
3
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
4
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
5 objection, the item
passes.
6
Item 2.
7
MS. CASTILLE: Item 2 is withdrawn.
8
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion to withdraw Item 2.
9
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Second.
10
GOVERNOR BUSH: Motion to withdraw Item 2 and second.
11 Without objection,
the item is withdrawn.
12
MS. CASTILLE: That concludes Power Plant Siting.
13
GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you.
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GOVERNOR BUSH: Board of Trustees.
2
MS. CASTILLE: Minutes from the meeting of March 9th.
3
GENERAL CRIST: Motion on the minutes.
4
CFO GALLAGHER: Second.
5
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
6 objection, the item
passes.
7
Item 2.
8
MS. CASTILLE: Item 2 is consideration of two option
9 agreements to acquire
406 acres within the Tomoka State
10 Park additions and
inholdings project from the Trust for
11 Public Land.
This acquisition involves two parcels in the
12 Mission Pines parcel
and the Tall Pines parcel. The
13 Mission Pines parcel
is being acquired for 1,048,000.
14 Approximate value per
acre is $4,629. And the Tall Pines
15 parcel is being
acquired for $2.2 million, approximately
16 12,000 an acre.
The difference in the per acre value is
17 attributable to the
percentage of wetlands in the Mission
18 Pines versus the Tall
Pines tract.
19
The tract you see before you will be acquired to be
20 managed by DEP's
Division of Recreation and Parks as a
21 part of Tomoka State
Park. It's a huge win for the
22 citizens of Florida
as another step towards preserving the
23 greenway corridor in
northeast Florida. The plantation
24 ruins that have been
discovered on the Mission Pines tract
25 include ruins of a
residence and the foundation of a
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1 kitchen. It is
expected that further surveys will turn up
2 more plantation
ruins. Another view of the Tall Pines
3 tract. Do we
have a motion?
4
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 2.
5
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
6
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
7 objection, the item
passes.
8
MS. CASTILLE: Item 3. Item 3 is a consideration of
9 the delegation of
authority to the secretary of DEP or my
10 designee to
accomplish an acquisition through negotiation
11 or condemnation and
include authority to prepare and
12 execute the necessary
parcel-specific condemnation
13 resolution.
14
Secondly, a waiver of the Board of Trustees' eminent
15 domain policy
allowing for homestead to be acquired
16 without owner
approval. And, third, direction to DEP to
17 acquire a fee simple
interest via eminent domain in the
18 event that
negotiations do not result in an agreement.
19
Item 4 -- and there's also a fourth request that we
20 be given time to
consider -- to continue negotiations with
21 Mr. Hardy and that we
absolutely could not take any
22 eminent domain action
prior to June 25th and no later than
23 August 31st of this
year.
24
CFO GALLAGHER: Governor, based on the letter to Eva
25 Armstrong from
Gregory Ricks, (phonetic) Esquire, of
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1 Brigham Moore where
he's confirming that based on his
2 conversation -- he is
an attorney obviously -- on his
3 conversation with S.W.
Moore, Esquire and Jesse Hardy that
4 he's been asked to
represent to the Governor and Cabinet
5 their concurrence with
the direction sought by DEP and
6 outlined above in the
agenda that we've been provided
7 today, I'll move Item
3.
8
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
9
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion and a second. Any
10 discussion?
11
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Question.
12
GOVERNOR BUSH: Yes.
13
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Madam Secretary, I just -- I
14 want to make sure of
the process here. Now if you do
15 decide because of
this request to go into --
16
MS. CASTILLE: Eminent domain.
17
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: -- right, eminent domain
18 procedures, now,
should there be any circumstances that
19 pop out of that that
seems to be egregious to Mr. Hardy's
20 party, they have the
ability to come back to the Board
21 should that happen,
right? I mean, we're not giving up
22 any --
23
MS. CASTILLE: We do. And I will -- I want to assure
24 you that we will do
that. As it stands right now --
25
GOVERNOR BUSH: Colleen, he was asking if Mr. Hardy
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1 has the right to stop
it if --
2
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Assuming that he feels and the
3 attorneys for Mr.
Hardy feel that this didn't work out
4 like they thought it
was going to, they do have the
5 ability to turn around
and come back to the Board?
6
MS. CASTILLE: We would accept that. That is not
7 what the plan
is. The plan is to go forward with eminent
8 domain.
9
CFO GALLAGHER: They are pretty clear in the letter
10 here. I will
just read you, That you represented and the
11 current agenda for
the Board of Trustees reflect that DEP
12 will seek in lieu of
Mr. Hardy's request that an
13 additional deferment,
direction from the Board to continue
14 earnest and good
faith negotiation with Mr. Hardy and that
15 eminent domain
proceedings, if authorized, will be
16 initiated no sooner
than June 25th, 2004 and no later than
17 August 31st,
2004.
18
They recognize that is the parameters they are
19 working on if they
cannot come to an agreement by
20 June 25th. Then
somewhere between the 25th and
21 August 31st they
recognize that eminent domain will move
22 in and the Court will
come up with a price. And, I mean,
23 it's very hard for us
to go against it when they've agreed
24 to it. That's
my opinion anyway.
25
COMMISSIONER BRONSON: Let me just state that my
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1 concern is that -- I
mean I want to be fair with this
2 whole process and
we've been very fair because we have put
3 this off how many
times trying to work out an agreement
4 with Mr. Hardy and I
hope that agreement does get worked
5 out with DEP being the
lead agency in this.
6
But knowing that we've had some hiccups before like
7 offering the
Miccosukees land in Jacksonville which is way
8 away from where the
Miccosukees live, that they disagreed
9 with some issues when
they were being dealt with. I just
10 want to make sure
that there is, since it is the Board
11 that is doing eminent
domain, not DEP, they are
12 representing the
Board. But I just want to make sure if
13 there's a hiccup in
here, that we're going to hear about
14 it back at the Board
level.
15
MS. CASTILLE: Commissioner Bronson, let me just give
16 you a little bit of a
history of what we've done since
17 this item has been
deferred. Based on the direction that
18 you gave us, that you
wanted to make sure we were caring
19 and compassionate
with Mr. Hardy and his adopted family,
20 we've sure --
21
GOVERNOR BUSH: It's not adopted family. We keep
22 saying "adopted
family".
23
MS. CASTILLE: Informally adopted family.
24 (Laughter.)
Informally. We have assured that any of the
25 exchanges that we
have proposed to Mr. Hardy have been in
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1 the school district
that Tommy currently attends, that he
2 can -- that we have
four sites that we have presented for
3 his review and
visitation and three of those sites we
4 believe can
effectively allow him to continue the type of
5 business that he is
currently in. And so -- and we would
6 permit that
business.
7
So what we are doing, we are openly and honestly and
8 truthfully dealing
with him to ensure that he gets that
9 opportunity. But
we do have a very huge goal in front of
10 us of Everglades
restoration. This piece of property is
11 right in the middle
of a critical project for Everglades
12 restoration.
And restoring much of Fakahatchee Strand and
13 the Picayune State
Forest which is managed by Forestry.
14 So we are attempting
to make it a win/win situation for
15 both and to be -- and
to respect Mr. Hardy's
16 constitutional
property rights. And so we are asking for
17 the ability to move
forward with eminent domain without
18 having to come back
before the Board.
19
GOVERNOR BUSH: Which the applicant or which
20 Mr. Hardy and his
legal representative have agreed to.
21
MS. CASTILLE: Correct.
22
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion and a second. Any
23 other discussion?
24
All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed -- motion
25 passes
unanimously.
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1
MS. CASTILLE: Thank you, Governor and members of the
2 cabinet.
3
GOVERNOR BUSH: Progress.
4
CFO GALLAGHER: Battle. You did a great job.
5
MS. CASTILLE: Just keep moving forward.
6
CFO GALLAGHER: Amen.
7
MS. CASTILLE: That's the extent of our agenda.
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1
GOVERNOR BUSH: State Board of Administration.
2
THE WITNESS: Motion on the minutes.
3
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
4
GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded. Without
5 objection, Item 1
passes.
6
Item 2.
7
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 2.
8
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
9
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion and a second.
10 Without objection,
the item passes.
11
MR. STIPANOVICH: Item No. 3, Governor, and members,
12 is the proposed
budgets for the fiscal year 2004, 2005.
13
CFO GALLAGHER: Motion on 3.
14
GENERAL CRIST: Second.
15
GOVERNOR BUSH: There's a motion and a second.
16 Without objection,
the item passes.
17
MR. STIPANOVICH: Thank you very much.
18
CFO GALLAGHER: Thank you, Coleman.
19
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I, KRISTEN L. BENTLEY, Court Reporter, certify that
8 the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at
the time and
9 place therein designated; that my shorthand notes
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attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative
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